With 600 to go he made a really strong, tough move at the perfect time to get himself back into the top end of the race. It was impressive.
With 400 to go once he got back in it, he made a big move again that seemed to waste a lot of energy in outer lanes on the curve. Might have cost him some time
Very impressive, tough race
Here I was thinking that LRC was ragging on Harry Potter's pedestrian marathon debut.
He's running the deuce at the Mass. State Meet tonight. The meet record is 9:00.0, set in 1975 by one Alberto Salazar of Wayland High School. Here's hoping the kid destroys that mark. (The overall outdoor state record is 8:50.82, set by Chris Barnicle in 2004. In 1998, Franklyn Sanchez beat Andy Powell 8:49.60 to 8:50.29 in the indoor state meet, the best prep race I have ever seen in person.)
Ever seen Gabe Jennings run?
BigFan wrote:
indoor duel meet
Kids should not be killing each other indoors
Does anyone have a list of high school boys under 4:02 for he mile? There are getting to be a lot of them now.
And this too wrote:
Does anyone have a list of high school boys under 4:02 for he mile? There are getting to be a lot of them now.
I was starting to compile the top few hundred the other day
03:53.43 Alan Webb, South Lakes, Reston VA '01
03:55.30 Jim Ryun, East, Wichita KS '65
03:57.81 i Drew Hunter (Loudoun Valley, Purcellville, Va)
03:59.38 Grant Fisher (Grand Blanc, Mi)
03:59.38 Matthew Maton (Summit, Bend, Or)
03:59.40 Tim Danielson, , Chula Vista CA '66
03:59.53 Michael Slagowski (Rocky Mountain, Meridian, Id)
03:59.7 *Lukas Verzbicas’ (Sand, Orland Park, Il)
03:59.80 Marty Liquori, Essex Catholic, Newark NJ '67
04:00.29 Donald Sage, Elmhurst, York IL '00
04:00.52 + Ryan Hall, Big Bear, Big Bear Lake (03:42.70 1.5k) CA '01
04:01.02 Steve Magness, Klein Oak, Houston TX '03
04:01.03 + Jon Riley, Brookline, (03:43.18 1.5k) MA '97
04:01.04 Austin Tamagno (Brea-Olinda, Brea, Ca)
04:01.1 Rob Finnerty (Burnsville, Mn)
04:01.27 + Matt Centrowitz, Power Memorial, NYC (03:43.4 1.5k) NY '73
04:01.32 *Bernie Montoya (Cibola, Yuma, Az)
04:01.50 Gerry Lindgren, Rogers, Spokane WA '64
04:01.7 + German Fernandez (Riverbank, Ca)
04:01.8 Austin Mudd (C Grove, Greenwood, In)
04:01.89 Garrett O’Toole (Middlesex, Concord, Ma)
04:02.01 Sharif Karie, West, West Springfield VA '97
* = junior
+ = converted from 1500 or 1600
BigFan wrote:
This may be the most under-trained talented kid in the country. He plays Soccer in the fall (has never run XC), ran an 8:57 2 mile in an indoor duel meet lapping everyone at least twice, and ran some ridiculous DMR anchor legs at NBIN and Penn.
The reality is, he's not a miler at all, this is a 5K kid. His 4:01 is all strengh. It won't surprise me at all to see him go sub 14 indoors or out next year at Stanford.
And he wasn't even invited to Brooks PR. What's up with that??
What do you mean strength? Is he lifting a lot of weight while he runs? Because that would be impressive.
HardLoper wrote:
I was starting to compile the top few hundred the other day
03:53.43 Alan Webb, South Lakes, Reston VA '01
03:55.30 Jim Ryun, East, Wichita KS '65
03:57.81 i Drew Hunter (Loudoun Valley, Purcellville, Va)
03:59.38 Grant Fisher (Grand Blanc, Mi)
03:59.38 Matthew Maton (Summit, Bend, Or)
03:59.40 Tim Danielson, , Chula Vista CA '66
03:59.53 Michael Slagowski (Rocky Mountain, Meridian, Id)
03:59.7 *Lukas Verzbicas’ (Sand, Orland Park, Il)
03:59.80 Marty Liquori, Essex Catholic, Newark NJ '67
04:00.29 Donald Sage, Elmhurst, York IL '00
04:00.52 + Ryan Hall, Big Bear, Big Bear Lake (03:42.70 1.5k) CA '01
04:01.02 Steve Magness, Klein Oak, Houston TX '03
04:01.03 + Jon Riley, Brookline, (03:43.18 1.5k) MA '97
04:01.04 Austin Tamagno (Brea-Olinda, Brea, Ca)
04:01.1 Rob Finnerty (Burnsville, Mn)
04:01.27 + Matt Centrowitz, Power Memorial, NYC (03:43.4 1.5k) NY '73
04:01.32 *Bernie Montoya (Cibola, Yuma, Az)
04:01.50 Gerry Lindgren, Rogers, Spokane WA '64
04:01.7 + German Fernandez (Riverbank, Ca)
04:01.8 Austin Mudd (C Grove, Greenwood, In)
04:01.89 Garrett O’Toole (Middlesex, Concord, Ma)
04:02.01 Sharif Karie, West, West Springfield VA '97
* = junior
+ = converted from 1500 or 1600
Ok, so there have been a lot more in recent years. Now over 20 guys under 4:02 including conversions. I remember when it what less than half that size and it wasn't long ago.
He's not a pure miler. He's got good speed but not great speed. He'd be outkicked by most top milers most of the time. He's much more a 5k/10k type. Gutsy, strong. Can keep the pedal down for a long time but can't shift gears like the recent crop of sub 4 kids.