D3 Atlantic Region XC 2016

Yeah nobody likes Geneseo though, all there guys are dbags

NYU FTW

Assuming Jorge doesn't rediscover the Internet, he should take second behind IGC.

20 years ago the bottom three would've been In the top 5 with Ithaca and Albany. Ebb and flow of programs is interesting.

dbag city wrote:

Yeah nobody likes Geneseo though, all there guys are dbags

Yep, they are all there! You're not quite there yet, but keep trying.

returners from last years regional results:

Geneseo: 1-4, 7 (Jr, Sr, Sr, Sr, Sr)

SLU: 1-3, 6, 7 (Sr, Sr, So, Sr, So)

Hamilton: 1, 6 (Sr, Jr)

Ithaca: 2, 3, 6, 7, 8 (Sr, Sr, Jr, So, So)

NYU: 1-4, 6, 7 (Jr, Sr, Jr, Sr, Jr, So)

RPI: 1-4, 6, 7 (Sr, So, Jr, So, Sr, Sr)

Ramapo: 1, 3, 5-7 (So, Jr, Jr, Sr, Jr)

Rowan: 1, 3-7 (Jr, Sr, So, Sr, Sr, Sr)

TCNJ: 1, 5, 7 (Sr, Sr, Jr)

Oneonta: 1-4, 6, 7 (Sr, Sr, Jr, Sr, So, So)

based on that I definitely wouldn't put Ithaca out of the top 10. Hamilton will fall out of the top 10 for sure. It looks like Rowan, NYU, RPI and Oneonta have the most returners, but Oneonta won't compete for top 5 I don't think and RPI had great track seasons so I suspect they will be top 2. NYU also brings back a lot so we'll see about them. They're a bit unpredictable in my eyes. SLU losing 4 and 5 is big, but I think they can hang onto 3rd. If we learned anything last year, it's that NJ teams are over-rated and choke and regionals

yep because as we saw last year track times have everything to do with success in the fall. pretty sure this thread was filled last year with posts about a kid on Hamilton having a 16:28 5K PR and yet all his races were splitting faster. RPI's solid track season is just that but should by no means be used to put them at possibly 2nd in the region next fall

Rochester is grossly underrated

Yeah because a sub-15 guy (or 4 in this case) is really going to have no xc potential whatsoever.

XC not Track wrote:

yep because as we saw last year track times have everything to do with success in the fall. pretty sure this thread was filled last year with posts about a kid on Hamilton having a 16:28 5K PR and yet all his races were splitting faster. RPI's solid track season is just that but should by no means be used to put them at possibly 2nd in the region next fall

You can't just disregard track times. Especially if they're 5k-10k times. It's rare someone is just bad on the track and good at xc. Geneseo has a ton of guys who weren't top 7 on their regional team who went sub 32 in the 10k this outdoor. RPI had 4 guys go sub 15 in the 5k, that's big, and probably the only other team in the region that could've done that in track was Geneseo. I'm not saying the times are pointing towards great cross times, but the potential for it is obviously there

Things wrong with these predictions:

1. Ithaca not in the top 10. They lost their top guy but bring back a good group of guys. They'll be worse than last year but not out of the top 10

2. Oneonta at 6. They return most of their guys but they aren't a cross country school. Look for them to be around where they were last year in that 8-10 range

3. Cortland and RIT in the top 10. Cortland has nobody other than Mitch Ryan, who had a great track campaign. Their #2 guy is only mid 15 for 5k so don't expect anything after Mitch. RIT had an awful showing at regionals last year. They are young, but don't have much to work with.

I do agree with you on those top 3, though

Every year RPI is talked up and every year they disappoint...sure they look better in track than they have before but it has never translated before...SLU on the other hand is always there no matter who they lose.

Geneseo

SLU

NYU

Rowan

Ramapo

RPI

Rochester

Ithaca

Oneonta

TCNJ

Being a grad from a school in the sunyac, I only really follow teams from there.

Geneseo: top dogs. Good track seasons and return a bunch. IGC 3:45, 14:23; Mazzuca 15:01, 30:20; Burks 14:56; Pulvidente 31:28; Herbert 15:04, 31:35. Just naming a few

Oneonta: top seniors with a young support team. Lupia 14:44, 30:25; Busby 8:42, 14:54, 17th at regionals last year; Fleming 4:19i; Akerley 4:21, 15:14, Dunham 15:38, 33:12

Cortland: top guy and then a weak supporting cast. Ryan 14:42, 9:01sc; Perrone 15:29, 33:21; Granger 4:01, 4:20i; Zedack 15:38, 9:48sc

Wuttt wrote:

You can't just disregard track times. Especially if they're 5k-10k times. It's rare someone is just bad on the track and good at xc.

The idea is that they'd be good on the track but bad at xc, which is more common than the other way around.

What happened to that really fast Rpi kid at nationals?

You mean Fazio? If he can stay healthy look for a great XC season from him. Any other wild card teams/runners...

Don't count out the big bad boof

Wowie!! What's gonna happen this year?!?!? Are all of the NJ teams (God Bless NJ) gonna bomb it at regionals for the third year in a row? Will Utica translate its track success over to cross country, and end Ithaca's dominance in the E8? Will RPI finally live up to their let'srun hype? How will Hamilton deal with the destruction of their roster? Is Ithaca going to disappear for the entire season and then totally fvck up the Atlantic Region's bids? Can we expect Geneseo to have another butt-ramming performance at Nationals? Good golly this is exciting, folks!

Top 7 at regionals:

SunyG

RPI

SLU

Ithaca

NYU

Rowan

Utica

Forgot to add:

For all you young folks in here, make sure you keep up your JPDs. Jack Daniels told me that it is the second most important thing next to running, especially during base phase. If you want to have a good performance at regionals, your JPD level should be around 4-5. Good luck