Yes, Ben ran 8:49 at the track at BYU. Ben and Casey are both in the same category but two different running styles. Clinger is more like Luke Puskedra, he is the type of runner who can take it from the gun and run for time. Ben was not. Ben was never a front runner. He was the type to run the race only to win, never to lead. Luckily because he was in high level races he did produce some good times. His victory at Arcadia included a 55 last lap. He could have gone faster. He ran the 8:49 at BYU during his highest mileage week ever and lead the whole thing, he hated that race and said it was the hardest thing he ever did. That converts to 8:36 at sea level. The 4:07 was also run during a high mileage week because he wanted to train through state to peak at the dream mile. Don't forget, at that dream mile he beat Edward Cheserek, Sean McGorty, Andres Arroyo, Blake Haney and Bernie Montoya. No small feat. The 4:02 was run into a 30 mph wind on the backstretch or it would have been sub 4.
All of that said... Clinger is the best hope to ever break Ben's records. Because he can run solo for time he is likely to get them. He certainly is on track if he can stay healthy and improve his senior year. That is the real trick. Many superstar Juniors have not left room to increase their mileage and improve as a senior. Connor Mantz, Bernie Montoya and a lot of others were already tapped out in their training. However, AF is well coached and I am pretty sure Timo is smart enough to have left some in reserve for Clinger's senior year. There are also other guys at AF that are a threat to Clinger, it will keep him pushing for sure. It will be fun to watch. If he does break that 8:49 it will be one of the greatest performances of any high schooler in a 3200.
The real shame is that Nike Nationals and Foot locker west are on the same day. It is set up in a way that prevents Clinger from running foot locker. Because clinger is on a great team he will not get a chance to go up against the best individuals who are at Foot Locker.