Another frustrated Parent with coach

Wow, that sounds really important!

While your post is not very clear, it sounds like you have a beef.

So your son ran the best time at the conference 4 x 800 and got bumped for the state qualifying team? Or did the team win the conference 4 x 800 and your son got bumped because he is 5th fastest? Do you know anything about the senior other than he ran 10:22? I mean if he is a 4:3X/10:22 guy he is due to run a better 2 miles...

Are you in a small state or class? How many kids from a team are allowed to run in an event? Did the coach fill the slots or do they need to have qualifying times? How does the bus situation work? Is there just not enough seats and that is why the other sophomore is just filling all the last slots?

Would you like me to talk to the coach for you?

Sorry. Won soph conf team 4x8. He's 5th fastest on varsity for 800, 3rd for mile, 2nd for 2mile. Senior is 10:22 4;55 guy. 2 per event, Big class and no chance for anyone to qual in 4x8 or any other event.

Encourage YOUR SON to set up an appointment with the coach to discuss YOUR SON's concerns. IF and ONLY IF your son gets blown off, should you get involved. If that happens, request to meet directly with the coach (not the AD). If and only if you get blown off, should you request to meet with the AD.

That is the most helpful advice you will get.

That would be, "Another parent frustrated with coach."

thejeff wrote:

Encourage YOUR SON to set up an appointment with the coach to discuss YOUR SON's concerns. IF and ONLY IF your son gets blown off, should you get involved. If that happens, request to meet directly with the coach (not the AD). If and only if you get blown off, should you request to meet with the AD.

That is the most helpful advice you will get.

No. The best advice is to set up an appointment with an English teacher.

Coaches like winning and will put the best team out there. If it's close between a sophomore and senior, usually it goes to the dedicated senior. Your job as a parent is to shut up let the coach do the coaching. Your helicopter parenting has no place in high school sports. I guarantee the coach and AD are having a good laugh at parents like you.

Your son was frosh soph champ. That's a great way to end the season. Take a look at Cali state meet qualifying. 4:50/10:09 gets you a nice seat in the stands to watch the meet.

Tldr; your annoying and helicoptering. Get over yourself. Your prince isn't the next Rupp or Mary Cain. Enjoy being a spectator and cheerleader for your son when he races.

Realty Dosage wrote:

Coaches like winning and will put the best team out there. If it's close between a sophomore and senior, usually it goes to the dedicated senior.

I've never understood this. Why not give the experience to the runner who will be returning?

They have states where kids only compete vs their class? There's a freshman state champ a sophomore champ, etc..? Sounds very contrived.

I though we all ran and let the chips fall.

How about letting the kid grow up.

Realty Dosage wrote:

Coaches like winning and will put the best team out there. If it's close between a sophomore and senior, usually it goes to the dedicated senior. Your job as a parent is to shut up let the coach do the coaching. Your helicopter parenting has no place in high school sports. I guarantee the coach and AD are having a good laugh at parents like you.

Your son was frosh soph champ. That's a great way to end the season. Take a look at Cali state meet qualifying. 4:50/10:09 gets you a nice seat in the stands to watch the meet.

Tldr; your annoying and helicoptering. Get over yourself. Your prince isn't the next Rupp or Mary Cain. Enjoy being a spectator and cheerleader for your son when he races.

Bad, bad advice. Your job as a parent is to make sure you look out for your child and provide them with the best possible childhood. If this means going to the AD, by all means, go to the AD a d make things right.

It sounds like it was the conference that had the sophomore competition not the state.

For XC, I can see why you give the call to the senior for his colleges apps. Outdoor track is a much closer because by this time in their senior year, many kids, even those who were very dedicated, have started to mail it in.

Since neither has a chance at making state you go with the senior. Your sons last meet he got to win. Learning to win is better than finishing DFL. The senior might be the hardest worker on the team, a team leader, etc. If your son is anything like you he might be a pain to deal with.

I'd be embarrassed if I were your son. I'd want to make state on my own merits, not because daddy cried to the ad and coach.

Time to cut the cord and let your boy deal with it.

Wow, what an unbelievably absurd post.

You are either:

a) Not really a parent

b) A troll

c) A complete moron

Quite possibly all 3

Frustrated Parent wrote:

Told him to talk with coach about what he would run at conf.....coach told him, "I decide what you run, go back to class."

Since writing ability clearly does not run in your family, the coach was doing your son huge favor by sending him back to class. He can't afford to miss any.

Realty Dosage wrote:

Parent wrote:

Bad, bad advice. Your job as a parent is to make sure you look out for your child and provide them with the best possible childhood. If this means going to the AD, by all means, go to the AD a d make things right.

Since neither has a chance at making state you go with the senior. Your sons last meet he got to win. Learning to win is better than finishing DFL. The senior might be the hardest worker on the team, a team leader, etc. If your son is anything like you he might be a pain to deal with.

I'd be embarrassed if I were your son. I'd want to make state on my own merits, not because daddy cried to the ad and coach.

Time to cut the cord and let your boy deal with it.

I agree with letting the kid handle his business but why default to the senior? If he is still mediocre by this time then he doesn't deserve it. He's probably checked out by now with senioritis so there is very little upside by running him. That's why he has only run 10:20 or whatever time that was. Give the underclassman the experience in a big race so when the time comes when he is ready to qualify, he's already been there.

I'm glad you weren't my parent. Look out for your child, yes. Coming running to the rescue at every perceived slight, no. Reality dosage came on a little stronger than necessary, but he's not wrong.

OP,

The only thing i see here is that the other sophomore with similar times got three events, while your kid got none. This assumes the senior is a hard worker and just not talented. Your kid should talk to the coach about it himself. There is probably a logical reason.

I will say that sometimes coaches won't be completely objective based on times. When choosing between similar runners they'll choose the one they like more. If they perceive a kid to be whiny, entitled, lazy, pretentious, overly dramatic, etc, they'll go with the other one.

The Guru Matt James wrote:

Frustrated Parent wrote:

Told him to talk with coach about what he would run at conf.....coach told him, "I decide what you run, go back to class."

Since writing ability clearly does not run in your family, the coach was doing your son huge favor by sending him back to class. He can't afford to miss any.

....was doing your son *a* huge favor.....