Boston College Men: 0 Points at ACC

the issue comes down to the coaching. BC has enough pull and interest from high schoolers initially to do well. It's about the development (or lack thereof), getting decent to good runners and doing nothing over 4 years. Ritchie was decent but inside source says he is less involved now, or stepping away. Kerr has been stagnant for years and cultivates and extremely negative culture. There are a lot's of promising recruits who toil for 4 years and maybe take a little of their PRs but do nothing special. It's a damn shame but the head coach's position at such an irrelevant program is very safe, especially since the team has a stellar GPA under him. The attrition rate on the team is unreal. The common denominator is Coach Kerr.

As a former athlete for BC XC and T&F I completely agree with what you said about Kerr. I would NEVER recommend him as a coach to anyone. He is the problem. There is absolutely no question about it.

Larger problem is no scholarships or funding. But if they did have funding then Kerr wouldn't be coach so I guess it's a chicken and the egg thing.

Hollows wrote:

All big universities own property beyond their campuses. This doesn't change the fact that Harvard's campus is in Cambridge.

Except for the large parts of Harvard's campus (as mentioned) that are in Boston. Are you telling me that HBS, HMS, and Harvard Stadium are all in Cambridge?

;) wrote:

Use a map wrote:

Harvard, Yale, Brown, Williams, Middlebury, Tufts, MIT, ...

More selective? Sure. But when you talk about schools that NE kids want to go to and root for? Tufts? MIT? Really?

Maybe it's because I grew up in Newton but most of my classmates (in public school) would certainly have rather gone to the schools listed than BC.

Nobody except BC alumni in the Greater Boston area give two shits about rooting for BC; people only care about the Pats, Sox, Celtics, and Bruins. If you think BC sports are a draw to the school to the average New Englander the way that they are for Notre Dame to midwesterners than you're delusional

But like BU though.

It gets the Rich Peters bump too

Paul Revere wrote:

;) wrote:

More selective? Sure. But when you talk about schools that NE kids want to go to and root for? Tufts? MIT? Really?

Maybe it's because I grew up in Newton but most of my classmates (in public school) would certainly have rather gone to the schools listed than BC.

Nobody except BC alumni in the Greater Boston area give two shits about rooting for BC; people only care about the Pats, Sox, Celtics, and Bruins. If you think BC sports are a draw to the school to the average New Englander the way that they are for Notre Dame to midwesterners than you're delusional

Hmm, I'm trying to think of a reason why kids from Newton are less BC-fixated than kids from more Catholic towns, but I just can't come up with one.

More Catholic towns? WTF?

;) wrote:

Paul Revere wrote:

Maybe it's because I grew up in Newton but most of my classmates (in public school) would certainly have rather gone to the schools listed than BC.

Nobody except BC alumni in the Greater Boston area give two shits about rooting for BC; people only care about the Pats, Sox, Celtics, and Bruins. If you think BC sports are a draw to the school to the average New Englander the way that they are for Notre Dame to midwesterners than you're delusional

Hmm, I'm trying to think of a reason why kids from Newton are less BC-fixated than kids from more Catholic towns, but I just can't come up with one.

So are you saying they're the most popular school in New England? Or the most popular school amongst New England Catholics?

Paul Revere wrote:

Hollows wrote:

All big universities own property beyond their campuses. This doesn't change the fact that Harvard's campus is in Cambridge.

Except for the large parts of Harvard's campus (as mentioned) that are in Boston. Are you telling me that HBS, HMS, and Harvard Stadium are all in Cambridge?

No one said that. Why do some people on here feel the need to put words into someone's mouth just to appear to win an unwinable argument.

Stop making shit up wrote:

Paul Revere wrote:

Except for the large parts of Harvard's campus (as mentioned) that are in Boston. Are you telling me that HBS, HMS, and Harvard Stadium are all in Cambridge?

No one said that. Why do some people on here feel the need to put words into someone's mouth just to appear to win an unwinable argument.

Because it's a dumb argument to begin with?

From what people in the region say, BC guys are a drinking team with a running problem. A bunch of entitled kids who go get drunk 3-4 times a week.

Other issues mentioned in this topic definitely contribute to their struggles, such as neglectful coaching, lack of scholarships and lack of facilities. Despite these issues it's still strange how BAD Boston College is - with the talent they can draw in (and do get) you'd expect at least a handful of decent kids each year but that's just not the case. They are one of the worst D1 teams in the northeast.

dfkmfkj wrote:

Other issues mentioned in this topic definitely contribute to their struggles, such as neglectful coaching, lack of scholarships and lack of facilities. Despite these issues it's still strange how BAD Boston College is

It's not strange at all. You gave the reasons.

John Harvard wrote:

Stop making shit up wrote:

No one said that. Why do some people on here feel the need to put words into someone's mouth just to appear to win an unwinable argument.

Because it's a dumb argument to begin with?

Bam!

Gordon F. wrote:

dfkmfkj wrote:

Other issues mentioned in this topic definitely contribute to their struggles, such as neglectful coaching, lack of scholarships and lack of facilities. Despite these issues it's still strange how BAD Boston College is

It's not strange at all. You gave the reasons.

I meant that those issues don't fully explain why they suck. It's the team drinking problem that is the biggest issue.

The issues you gave are the reason they suck and the reason they drink.

Harvard's tracks are in Boston. Boston College's track was in Boston about 120 yards from Newton.

Tell,us something we don't already know.

Bill flynt wrote:

Harvard's tracks are in Boston. Boston College's track was in Boston about 120 yards from Newton.

Enuf with geography.

Hey Bill Flynn you were a good AD.

Doug Flutie is root cause of BCs track problem as alumni went crazy after his Heisman with idea of creating national football power in bowl games every year like Notre Dame. Everything is football and hockey now to the detriment of all other sports. BC has lost its way. Harvard for example, allows walk ons or tryouts in ALL sports and supports fencing and ping pong and squash etc thanks to $2 Billion endowment.

Hopefully, this thread will be topic of discussion at upcoming track alum golf get together.