Remember folks, there is no war against religion. This thread is proof.
Remember folks, there is no war against religion. This thread is proof.
[quote]jjjjjj wrote:
Strong performances from Thompson. Kudos to him for adhering to his beliefs, no matter how irrational they may be.
Agreed....Same with the Nazi's, Taliban, ISIS, etc., etc....
I assume if this young man was ever in motor vehicle accident on a Sunday, he would refuse all treatment rather than force EMTs, nurses and ER doctors to have to work on the Lord's Day on his behalf.
Edgar Summersby wrote:
I assume if this young man was ever in motor vehicle accident on a Sunday, he would refuse all treatment rather than force EMTs, nurses and ER doctors to have to work on the Lord's Day on his behalf.
Apparently you aren't familiar with the term "ox in the mire."
Love it when the ignorant try to pass as educated.
logician wrote:
Edgar Summersby wrote:I assume if this young man was ever in motor vehicle accident on a Sunday, he would refuse all treatment rather than force EMTs, nurses and ER doctors to have to work on the Lord's Day on his behalf.
Apparently you aren't familiar with the term "ox in the mire."
Love it when the ignorant try to pass as educated.
Hilarious that someone expounding on Mormon principles would call another person ignorant.
Emergency or no, those that "keep holy the Sabbath" completely rely on those that don't in order to live in a functioning modern society. They are more than happy to take advantage of the fruits of others non-emergency Sunday labors while being able to puff out their chest as some kind of principled devotee.
He took his Sabbath on the wrong day.
Sandy Koufax wrote:
He took his Sabbath on the wrong day.
Doh! At the Pearly Gates, it's going to be pretty embarrassing when he learns he's being sent downstairs due to running in the prelims on Saturday. All that resting on Sunday was for nothing!
Saturday Sabbath FTW!
Christopher Hitchens said it best, "Religion poisons everything".
Including running.
Amazing how coaches will roll over to an athletes belief in a fairy tale.
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To F'ing BAD if you don't like it Bro - Grow Up!
It's HIS choice and if HE don't wanna run - then he damn well doesn't have to - I don't give a Fu#%k what you think!
RESPECT!
It's his choice not to run but is he getting scholarship money? Seems like he should run for BYU if he wants to rest on Sundays.
I commend him for sticking to his beliefs.Obviously you may not believe with them, but I can really respect someone who says, "this is important to me and this is how I'm going to act" and sticking to it when it comes at a sacrifice.I hadn't thought about him running the 10k instead of the 800/1500.
frank drebin wrote:
Emergency or no, those that "keep holy the Sabbath" completely rely on those that don't in order to live in a functioning modern society. They are more than happy to take advantage of the fruits of others non-emergency Sunday labors while being able to puff out their chest as some kind of principled devotee.
And since this thread has already turned into a discussion of the sabbath, I'll bite. 1) I don't see anything about him puffing his chest. He said what he believes and followed it.
2) I don't see how he needs to take advantage of the fruits of others to keep Sunday holy. His beliefs could easily allow emergency workers to work, that sort of thing. If he wants to spend the day with his family, reflecting that doesn't involve other people.
I just had some weird thought. Does this mean he doesn't watch NFL football? I assume if he is keeping the day holy to the extent he's not running, the NFL doesn't make the cut. I hated how you all were telling him what to do, but if I'm watching NFl I'm competing so I assume he doesn't watch NFL.
The bigger point is religious people are going to draw the line differently on what their practice entails.
I only realized the BIg 12 meet was on because my church is half a mile from TCU. I went to church, drove by the meet saw it was still going on, and then went back and caught the end of the meet.
I could never do this to my teammates. I owe it to them, for all their hard work and effort, to be there for them no matter what, giving it my all. I'm not blaming Thompson, I think he's unfortunately a victim of religion. Brainwashed by a fairy tale that causes war and violence.
frank drebin wrote:
logician wrote:Apparently you aren't familiar with the term "ox in the mire."
Love it when the ignorant try to pass as educated.
Hilarious that someone expounding on Mormon principles would call another person ignorant.
*Christian principles*
It was you who assumed he's Mormon.
oneoftheyoungboyz wrote:
I think he's unfortunately a victim of religion. Brainwashed by a fairy tale that causes war and violence.
I don't understand this viewpoint. If it makes him happy, how is he a victim? And do you realize that the VAST majority of believers, in any religion, are peaceful people?
I feel it is you who have been brainwashed into thinking otherwise.
I'm not arguing for religion, but against those who are antagonistic towards it. Your hatred disturbs me.
Apparently none of you are familar with Blue Laws which mandated the closing of businesses on Sunday in places like Toronto and Scotland with exceptions for pharmacies (which opened on revolving Sundays) and hospitals. If everyone obeyed the Sabbath there'd be far less unnecessary and frivolous travel and other silly/dangerous activities which in turn would sharply decrease the need for emergency services.
frank drebin wrote:
logician wrote:Apparently you aren't familiar with the term "ox in the mire."
Love it when the ignorant try to pass as educated.
Hilarious that someone expounding on Mormon principles would call another person ignorant.
Emergency or no, those that "keep holy the Sabbath" completely rely on those that don't in order to live in a functioning modern society. They are more than happy to take advantage of the fruits of others non-emergency Sunday labors while being able to puff out their chest as some kind of principled devotee.
And so what if I tell my kids there is a Santa Claus? It makes them happy! Plus, if they don't believe in Santa Claus, they will burn for ALL ETERNITY, so I'd be a pretty subpar parent if I didn't force them to worship Santa Claus.
Like I said, it makes them happy. Ignorance is bliss after all.
Wejo what church do you attend?
Wejo, first 2 things. You have competed on Sunday haven' t you? Just about every major marathon is on sunday. Do your religion doesn't influence your belief to the extent you can't run on sunday, or eat at a restaurant, or watch a track meet. That's normal. A lot of runners go to church sunday and run before and/or after. Some take sunday off, unless they have a race that day.
Its commendable that Thompson stuck to his beliefs which require he not run on Sunday, but is his coach just learning about them? Did the coach not check the schedule until the day before the meet? The 10k Friday night would have been an opportunity for Thompson to contribute to his team. Obviously Thompson must be focusing on nats, but isn't conference meaningful too?
Maybe I'm weird, but I think if someone knows there is no chance they will run in the final of an event then they shouldn't compete in the prelims.
Only read headlines wrote:
And so what if I tell my kids there is a Santa Claus? It makes them happy! Plus, if they don't believe in Santa Claus, they will burn for ALL ETERNITY, so I'd be a pretty subpar parent if I didn't force them to worship Santa Claus.
Like I said, it makes them happy. Ignorance is bliss after all.
So what's your problem here? That people choose to believe things you don't agree with or are illogical to you? Doesn't that seem a little bigoted to you?
How is it commendable to adhere to irrational beliefs? He let down his team and he took up a spot in both finals despite having no intention of racing, and in doing so prevented another athlete from running them. If he was my teammate I'd be pissed.