Oh Barry wrote:
Is it so that not a single one of the libtards here defends this decree? The only thing they seem to do (as usual) is to pour their hate onto DiscoGary.
What are all of you sick libtards views on this decree?
You forgot about moi. I'm a social justice warrior, by and large, when it comes to racial matters, and when it comes to feminism's core issue, which is gender parity. But I also believe in fair play, and I've been bothered by this particular issue ever since the Caster Semenya debacle and the way in which Dave Zirin immediately leapt to his/her defense while finding it easy to ignore the pain that CS's participation was causing his/her female competitors.
It's tempting for progressives--and I call myself a progressive centrist--to imagine that all the good and righteous people and issues more or less line up on the Left side of things. But this seems to me like one issue where ardent feminists should be profoundly alarmed. There's a gaping breach here between what is in the interests of female athletes and what is in the interests of transgender / intersex athletes.
Rojo is right: women's athletics does indeed discriminate. It says "No men allowed." It's one thing to say, "Sorry, trans women must be allowed into women's bathrooms." I think that's just fine. I heard Josh Earnest carefully and patiently explaining the contents of the DOJ letter during his briefing yesterday and it all made perfect sense.
BUT: women's athletics is a whole different thing. Regardless of what gender her mind insists she is, a trans woman has an X chromosome. She responds differently to testosterone. Trans women who are moving woman-ward (as it were) try to suppress testosterone, I believe; they're heading in a direction that tends to make them LESS competitive as athletes. But a trans woman athlete in competition--on a girl's XC team, for example--will, if she's truly competitive, have every reason in the world to dial back on the estrogen and let naturally produced testosterone kick in when pre-Nats and Nats are coming around.
Point is, this is a huge and completely ungovernable can of worms. The DOJ is acting as though it's all just good common sense, "fairness," and reasonable compliance. I don't think they've begun to think this through.
Brojos: this is a huge issue and if you summon JK and other experts, especially professionals in the world of women's athletics, to weigh in in a way that garners national attention, you will be performing an important public service.
The possibilities for gaming the system are immense here. And yes: the DOJ missive will have a huge chilling effect on those who might otherwise raise a hand and say--and please excuse my directness--"That is a DUDE right there, leading the girl's race, and that's just not FAIR, g--d---it!"
So yes: a few of us progressives are pissed off.