BBC reporting Kenya set to be declared in breach of global anti-doping rules in surprise WADA move

El Keniano wrote:

They've basically moved the goalposts, meaning they're determined to clear the field for your favourites. Enjoy your medals.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36275649

Karma's a b!tch, but there's no use being a crybaby. Your team has gotten away with about 20-25 years of solid doping. Don't be greedy,

WADA not having any real powers is almost completely irrelevant. It doesn't change any of the facts that I have written. The specifics of how WADA deems a country non-compliant and what that means is irrelevant. Kenya has a doping problem, you know it and it is well documented.

Kenya is very bad at controlling it's doping problem, and the problem of corruption in officials. Kenya deserves to get into trouble over the 40+ positives that have been found by the IAAF in the last 5 or so years, and the scandals with bribing of officials, extorting money from athletes, many other scandals including drug cheats changing their names and continuing to compete whilst banned and Kenyan's doping to win even low level European and American road races with cash prizes.

Kenya has shown it doesn't really care about anti-doping. And Kenyan athletes have shown they will take advantage of the situation and dope.

Kenya is not the only one, but tackling Kenya is a good start. The presence Kenya currently has on the world athletics scene means it is completely unfair to all others for it to not have effective controls in place.

I think you're right about it disrupting preparations. This news must be soul-crushing to the athletes so even if Kenya shows up in Rio, we won't have the success we anticipated. I expect this to be our worst Olympics since Atlanta and I'm not sure that it wasn't TPTB's ultimate intent.

I'll be cheering on Ethiopia, Uganda, Eritrea, Jamaica and others to completely crush them Rio completely shutting them out of the medals and let them know they'll have to ban us all in order to win.

The Kenyan govt just needs to fix thing and settle the dispute once for all. I don't think it is a lot to ask considering Kenya is among the three top countries in this sport. It is all about scientifically proving that you earned your gold medals without cheating.

On the "shocking drop in times since the mid-90s", I do not think that necessarily indicates use of drugs. If you visited training camps back in the days and compare what is the training techniques then and now, you will realize that a lot has evolved. For some reasons(I think low financial incentives then) Kenyans were not much into the marathons. Then financial incentives went up for the marathon and a lot of good young track runners "defected" to the roads. The result is strong competition leading to very fast times.

Who is 'us'? Jamaica is not an African country.

Maybe 'us' means drug cheating countries?

What is 'them'? Countries with decent anti-doping records?

Metric Miler wrote:

Who is 'us'? Jamaica is not an African country.

No, but they're 'us'. Any Jamaicans here would know what I mean.

peter pony tosha wrote:

The Kenyan govt just needs to fix thing and settle the dispute once for all. I don't think it is a lot to ask considering Kenya is among the three top countries in this sport. It is all about scientifically proving that you earned your gold medals without cheating.

On the "shocking drop in times since the mid-90s", I do not think that necessarily indicates use of drugs. If you visited training camps back in the days and compare what is the training techniques then and now, you will realize that a lot has evolved. For some reasons(I think low financial incentives then) Kenyans were not much into the marathons. Then financial incentives went up for the marathon and a lot of good young track runners "defected" to the roads. The result is strong competition leading to very fast times.

The law could be fixed but what's to prevent them from shifting the goalposts again? The damage's already done. Kenyan athletes' reputations have been savaged, left in tatters by their media. They're being portrayed in the same light as the Russians now competing under the same cloud of suspicion. It's all out PR onslaught which we can't win.

The irony is, while Kenya is declared non-compliant, it still won't stop runners from all over the world from visiting for training. Either we're a pariah like Russia or not.

with igf-1 lr3 use any kenya that does turn up stil doped like past 25 years.

iaaf/wada cult need to sacrafise 2 nations

been a lie for long time now wit iaaf chosing nd doping their own superstars.

at tis stage dont think rio will happen.

just go out in the rain and enjoy ur run in crapy shoes wit boys and without slave master cult iaaf inc. deciding for ya

Run apartheid against africans and get a box of TUE's just in case , might makes right. No hypocrisy here, move along.

look countries hav not gone to olympics before too.

iaaf know somethg u dont

anyway its letsrun no letsrun when iaaf say

El Keniano's posts are a typical example of how third world countries think. Everything is the fault of the US or Europe. Everything. Whenever they get some criticism, they're unwilling to admit any wrongdoing and start fixing it. They just blame everyone else. If you argue against them, they'll bring up racism, slavery and whatnot. The mindset of El Keniano and his compatriots is why Africa and other third world countries will never improve.

Renato: do you really think that Kenenisa is in good hands with this crazy science guy Pitsiladis, and his former coach Asrat who prepared him so badly for Chicago 2014?

At that time, when you starting working with Kenenisa, your comment was: "that was not marathon training..."

Are you still involved in Kenenisa's preparation, at least as advisor?

tony the tiger wrote:

Good riddance

I hope Ethiopia , jamaica and Turkey next

lets clean the God damn sports

Con-freaking-cur.

These counties have gotten "hall passes" on out of comp testing for far far far too long.

No more dual standards.

Rojo is a bleeding heart liberal on this, who is biased but won't say it or look at it.

In a world where Nigeria was recently called one of the most corrupt countries in the world, by the Brit PM, and then Nigeria's own official agreed -- how far does anyone think Kenya, Ethiopia and turkey -- in a world full of western opulence shoved in their faces -- and their poverty...and known corruption...on and on, we're really going to except excuses for the ilk of these people.

It's been posted again and again on these boards by close proximity observers and nominal insiders how the IAAF brass lived high on the hog off money's from the sport and federations.....

These countries have all been reasonably suspect for some time.

Kenya has been on the clock for a good long time and now it's time to face the music.

Renato...not an unbiased opinion.

Either the out of comp testing and labs are there, ready and up

To snuff or no.

Kenyans and Ethiopians are some of the sweetest, most lovely people in the world I've ever met.

That doesn't mean that their athletes, managers and officials are not dollar greedy / desperate corrupt people.

Comeuppance is coming.

Do what they ask and amend the bill. Best revenge would be to go to Brazil and absolutely smash it. Singling out Kenya out of, I'm sure, more than 100 countries is discrimination.

I hope instead of feeling deflated the team runs on pure hate in Rio, destroying idiots like Nick Willis who don't seem to realise that Kenyans are human beings with lives and families. Hope he falls flat on his face.

https://twitter.com/nickwillis/status/730892532046041092

Oh poor elite runners can't be away from their families for a month. Waaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Kenyans aren't willing to do anything against doping. Let them suffer the consequences.

El Keniano wrote:

Do what they ask and amend the bill. Best revenge would be to go to Brazil and absolutely smash it. Singling out Kenya out of, I'm sure, more than 100 countries is discrimination.

I hope instead of feeling deflated the team runs on pure hate in Rio, destroying idiots like Nick Willis who don't seem to realise that Kenyans are human beings with lives and families. Hope he falls flat on his face.

https://twitter.com/nickwillis/status/730892532046041092

Other coutries have been put under similar scrutiny! You are such a victim! Kenya is in trouble for not dealing with it's documented doping and corruption problem, there is no agenda by the British and American's you actual fool.

What do you not understand about why Kenya has had all the media attention? It is dominating track and field. The country that is dominating track and field does not have adequate anti-doping controls. That is not fair. I'm sure Afghanistan doesn't have an anti-doping system, but they have no athletes. Kenya has been seriously taking advantage of everyone.

Stop saying the goalposts have been moved. You are simply coming across as a whining child.

The goalposts were always there; test your athletes.

Your attitude is why your country is where it is right now. Athletes and doctors from your country have alledged widespread doping, and nobody stops them. A lot of your athletes take part in this sport for money, and money alone. Running pays Kenyans a lot better than other jobs that don't require a university education. These people do not care for the sport, and have no problems cheating to get the biggest financial gains. This is a fact and some of those caught doping have said so.

I hope you get banned from the Olympics because there have been so many Kenyan cheats caught by the IAAF, and such poor controls, and terrible corruptio that nobody can trust what they are watching.

Yes it is sad for the genuinely clean athletes that this is happenening, but I reckon they are in the minority. In the off season, Kenyans dope.