Hunter v. Slagowski: A Confounding Variable

It's not that weird; he came into his senior year with 4:15/9:08 PRs. Just massive improvement coming into cross as a senior. Also, he decided on going after the 2 mile record after his incredible double, which he ended up getting, rather than "just break 4:00" and fall well short of Webb's 3:53.

National Perspirer wrote:

Looking back, it's almost weird that German didn't go sub-4 in HS. Of course 6 months later he put that to rest.

Still the best double wrote:

Still falls short of German's 4:00.28 / 8:34 double at the California State Meet. Both completely solo efforts, less than 90 minutes apart.

Yeah, I remember he got the 2-mile record in a HS post-season meet. Major props for that, I think he led most of the way. Also, kids seem more aggressive about jumping into open meets now to get hauled to sub-4, at least kids not named Slagowski.

Double double wrote:

It's not that weird; he came into his senior year with 4:15/9:08 PRs. Just massive improvement coming into cross as a senior. Also, he decided on going after the 2 mile record after his incredible double, which he ended up getting, rather than "just break 4:00" and fall well short of Webb's 3:53.

National Perspirer wrote:

Looking back, it's almost weird that German didn't go sub-4 in HS. Of course 6 months later he put that to rest.

Considering Hunter just ran 1:48, even though it was with competition and yes Slagowski did it alone, I think everyone can stop saying Slagowski has more leg speed. Even if he can run the quarter faster than Hunter it's not like he's gonna be able to run the last quarter in 48 while Hunter runs a 50, you see what I'm saying? It's gonna come down to who has the STRONGER kick. And now seeing that they've both run 1:48 we know they can both close extremely well. Honestly my belief is that if they race head to head, whoever leads more loses, they're just that close in pure mile ability.

Was at Dogwood yesterday.

Maybe you guys need some info on the race. McGorty moved from the gun. I mean he had 5 meters on the boys by the 200. He went OUT. Great plan from the start. Had about the same gap until the final 200 when Hunter and Lomong started to move. It looked to me that Lomong might win, but in the end McGorty held on. He was TIGHT, tying up at the end there. But he held. Fastest 800 I've ever seen in real life. Hunter also looked to be catching the McGorty, point is, his KICK, he had more that McGorty. He didn't go out in 50hi/51low like McGorty did, but his 52/53 carried all the way through.

And his 3200, 4:21 first and 4:22 second. Smoothest thing I've ever seen. If he wants he could obliterate the 3200 record if he wanted to.

Oh and yes they did an elite 800 Invitational at around 1 PM and he had a couple hours rest until the 3200.

OP, do you even know what a confounding variable is??

I was the only one to predict 48FAT out of hundreds of posts about Slagowski. I won't even address anyone who implied that he would have trouble with McGorty over 800. 1:46 on the way.

Just watched Slagowski videos. Solo sub 4 mile, 48 quarters and crap rain soaked tracks with wind. HUNTER better duck that boy. Slagowski's coach, IMHO, is right.

True, true...

ohmyyyy wrote:

Just watched Slagowski videos. Solo sub 4 mile, 48 quarters and crap rain soaked tracks with wind. HUNTER better duck that boy. Slagowski's coach, IMHO, is right.

I also got a feeling that Slagowski is peaking just perfectly. Wondering if he could be the most dangerous HS distance runner, to lineup against, at PRE or Brooks, since that kid named Alan Webb.

Andro McNitro wrote:

No one said he had no speed. A 55 400 at the end of a 2 mile takes some serious wheels. 1:48 is exactly where I would have put him for a good race like that. He is just doesn't have the top end speed of Slagowski. MS would have won today's race handily, it's too bad he wasn't in it.

And for the last time, Webb's 47 was a rumored relay split. He was probably a 48 at best for the open. Slagowski has Webb speed without as much endurance.

but... wrote:

Hunter 1:48.6. Can we stop pretending he doesn't have any speed? A matchup between Hunter and Slagowski will still be awesome, especially considering Hunter had crazy good competition and didn't even beat lil McGorty.

Webb's 47.4 wasn't a rumor. It was his official split from the state meet. They do official relay splits at big meets.