HSER MICHAEL SLAGOWSKI JUST RAN A 3:59 FULL MF MILE!!!!!

Anyone think he has a shot at the 800 HSR?

Actually, this is a very good question: from 1:48 even-split no pacers to 1:46-low pos split with good comp and fast track is not a huge stretch. Definitely more doable than 3:53.

Critical Thinking wrote:

Anyone think he has a shot at the 800 HSR?

Anyone know his official 1500 split?

Meet info sheet says all milers would be timed at 1500 enroute.

But all my queries on Twitter have turned up nothing!

Results show just his mile time!

Matt Tegenkamp is reincarnated in this kid. Teg's retirement is too coincidental.

Metric Miler wrote:

speed isn't very trainable wrote:

Free to try, yes.

First off congrats to Slagowski, I didn't think he could do it so he's proved me wrong.

Secondly, this approach is why you are slow and why so many distance runners don't do speed work. You train speed; you get faster. Lift weights, speed drills, 30/60m... it works.

Too many US distance guys are cowards when it comes to real speed work.

3:43.4

Any insight as to what his training is like? Very interested to see how he fits in at Penn State.

Congrats to Slagowski.

This is a heck of an achievement.

DC Wonk wrote:

Yes, I agree with others: please don't go to Penn State!~ If you think the pinnacle of a runner's career is grinding all year to maybe do well in a relay, then fine. If he wants to keep improving and actualize his abilities, he needs to go somewhere that will develop his individual potential.

This is a prime example of why the US can't do better than they are in mid-distances. There's lots of strong talent like this kid, but they get ground down and poorly coached in college. If this guy has a dream of running in the Olympics or being pro, start planning for that now. Which means Penn State is no place for this talent.

Gosh, if only there were a school known for not ruining distance and mid-distance kids; for knowing how to peak them without over-training them.

A school with a climate and program suited to Slagowski's talents. A school with a long list of sub-4 miles; perhaps even the most of any college in the land.

A school with a hallowed track venue. A school that hosts one of the best Diamond League meets in the world every year... With plenty of natural surface trails.

Oh, wait...

If those splits are accurate, this performance indicates an ability quite a few seconds better than 3:59.53. Perfect first lap, 2:02-3 at 800m, giving away three seconds, then a 57 third lap solo! Good of him to be able to hang on the last lap after that. I'm thinking that 3:56-57 is on the way this season if there is adequate competition and pacing. In a high school only mile race against Hunter at the end of the season in good conditions, there would be a pacer presumably at about 1:59-2:00 and unless they are slowing the third lap for the kick, they could reach that 3:56-57. Otherwise, a race with collegians/pros would do the trick. Very impressive.

Austin Tamagno know's sub-4 pace by heart, he could easily take them out at 1:59-2:01

Try 3:55 for both if they run Pre Classic.

jjjjjj wrote:

If those splits are accurate, this performance indicates an ability quite a few seconds better than 3:59.53. Perfect first lap, 2:02-3 at 800m, giving away three seconds, then a 57 third lap solo! Good of him to be able to hang on the last lap after that. I'm thinking that 3:56-57 is on the way this season if there is adequate competition and pacing. In a high school only mile race against Hunter at the end of the season in good conditions, there would be a pacer presumably at about 1:59-2:00 and unless they are slowing the third lap for the kick, they could reach that 3:56-57. Otherwise, a race with collegians/pros would do the trick. Very impressive.

perfect race wrote:

Austin Tamagno know's sub-4 pace by heart, he could easily take them out at 1:59-2:01

Tamagno looks like he has a 3:58 in him this season if he gets in the right race. He needs to be at Pre as well.

Slagowski's full race (his dad shot the vid):

i'm very impressed by his performance and stuff, but there's not a chance he could take down Hunter in a mile, let alone anything longer.

farts wrote:

i'm very impressed by his performance and stuff, but there's not a chance he could take down Hunter in a mile, let alone anything longer.

You must be another distance guy with no speed. Slagowski has much better upside than Hunter in the mile, guaranteed. Too much speed. Everyone knows Hunter would would beat Slagowski in the 2 mile, but who cares? In races that require an element of pure speed, Hunter is at a disadvantage. Hunter's strength might hold out over Slagowski in a mile. Right now I'd bet on Slagowski in a mile because Hunter was towed to his times. Slagowski basically ran the last half mile on his own in wind and rain. In the end, speed kills, and Hunter doesn't have much speed.

Greg Hill wrote:

Matt Tegenkamp is reincarnated in this kid. Teg's retirement is too coincidental.

I came here to say the same thing. Crazy how similiar their running form is. Its almost identical

Common Sensei wrote:

Greg Hill wrote:

Matt Tegenkamp is reincarnated in this kid. Teg's retirement is too coincidental.

I came here to say the same thing. Crazy how similiar their running form is. Its almost identical

Upper body, yes. Slagdog has better knee lift and rear kick though, especially in high school. Dude looked so damn smooth. Very different from Hunter.

HS SUB 4! wrote:

He wen 49.low FAT last year in an open 4.

http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=4658804#/L0

Damn- he ran a 49 split on the 4x4 after the mile yesterday too!

jjjjjj wrote:

If those splits are accurate, this performance indicates an ability quite a few seconds better than 3:59.53. Perfect first lap, 2:02-3 at 800m, giving away three seconds, then a 57 third lap solo! Good of him to be able to hang on the last lap after that. I'm thinking that 3:56-57 is on the way this season if there is adequate competition and pacing. In a high school only mile race against Hunter at the end of the season in good conditions, there would be a pacer presumably at about 1:59-2:00 and unless they are slowing the third lap for the kick, they could reach that 3:56-57. Otherwise, a race with collegians/pros would do the trick. Very impressive.

That's what I thought too. Seeing the video, it looked like his teammate pacer ran out of gas and MS almost ran into him a couple of times on the back stretch and then overtook him after the turn on lap 2 - (3 seconds slower than lap 1?).

His dad shoots better footage on his iphone, or whatever it is, than a lot of pro productions I've seen. Dude needs to go pro. :)