All free things come to an end. USATF.tv is now part of Runnerspace +

cheeposkate wrote:

What I am not seeing is how USATF/runnerspace is going to get a huge % of the population who cares nothing about running to pay them money. There are some runners who will pay but will that be enough to be profitable?

I'm going to agree to disagree with you about attendance statistics.

But, the quoted above is an interesting question. USATF sold the rights to Runnerspace for some undisclosed sum. That's just how that works.

We don't know USATF's revenue model. Maybe they have a price that promoters can pay to have the event broadcast like a regular network, letting the promoter sell commercial slots? That is the norm for most minor sports events in the broadcast world. Again, since all of that is secret, one can only guess.

Will Runnerspace make money at it? Probably not. Did USATF make some money? Yeah, probably. How much? No idea.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

I'm going to agree to disagree with you about attendance statistics.

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reality check in wrote:

I'm already paying Milesplit 48$/yr. I'm not doubling down.

Think of it as doubling up.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

They are copying the NBA/NFL/MLB where attendance is collapsing, but revenues are up.

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Collapsing? Even the average MLB attendance is roughly twice what it was in 1960.

It's weird as I glad pay $120 a year ot watch every MLB game. I don't know why USATF doesn't include it in your membership. It would make me become a member.

rojo wrote:

It's weird as I glad pay $120 a year ot watch every MLB game. .

I pay $0 to listen to the local mlb team on the radio. In return, I do business with 3 or 4 of the advertisers who pay the radio station to broadcast the game. Works out great for everybody.

the letter why wrote:

Ok, I have to ask, but why in the hell would anyone EVER have to pay for porn?

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TAA wrote:

the letter why wrote:

Ok, I have to ask, but why in the hell would anyone EVER have to pay for porn?

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They don't but all the sites want you to. Since porn has been on the internet for years, I would imagine many do pay.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

riley stops wrote:

Umm, the NFL and NBA are doing just fine in attendance (aka not collapsing). In fact, the NBA had record-level attendance last year. Just fact checking a little.

You are using the constantly shifting NBA/NFL definition of "attendance." The modern term means revenue per seat. That number is way up because they are building smaller sites and demanding much more for the fewer seats. Same for the NFL. Days of 100,000 seat stages are gone.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/city-arena/article2602965.html

You're welcome.

Dead on. The NBA is a slowly sinking ship, with the feds behind the scenes even trying to help out for PC reasons that are beyond the comprehension of the PC cucks at LR.

My

http://www.tracktalk.net/t/iaaf-news-and-assorted-business/15063/2

post from last July was close>

When will USATF announce USATF.TV will go to a paid subscriber mode?

Will they let the fans have the OG Trials for free or will that be the first for a fee broadcast?

I think they will also tie the webcasts subscriptions to USATF membership. You will have to be a paid up member of USATF to even sign up for the paid webstream subscription.

I suspect they will have a pretty solid must allow us to share your contact info with advertising partners component tied to USATF membership too.

As far as promoting domestic meets goes I think we will hear about the Nike Track Meet Series (or somesuch name) being the "official" domestic track league of the USATF before long.

Truth if they do not start promoting some kind of domestic circuit soon what little 'casual Joe and Jane fan' fanbase track has will disappear entirely.

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The closest thing that there is to a "casual track fan" is someone who watches track during the Olympics. The vast majority of people don't watch any other time. Hell, even most runners don't follow the pro races.

Charging to watch meets and races means that fewer people will watch those meets and races. People aren't sitting around saying, hey, this costs money, it must be more valuable now.

Why don't they just have commercials to make money? Is it because they don't think anyone would advertise?

Why does Nike make us pay to watch advertisements?

Valar morghulis!

It's the end, boys.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/2/10/5390172/major-league-attendance-trends-1950-2013

The demographic is aging out and nothing coming in behind it.

Atlanta's new stadium is 8,000 seats smaller. (20%)

Padres not-so-new stadium lost 20,000 seats 63,000 -> 41,000

Oakland's never built new stadium loses 10,000 seats.

I could go on.

Well seeing as Runnerspace is a joke as a serious media outlet I'm just gonna have a laugh. I've worked for them before it's a rink-a-dink operation using HS kids as shooters running live feeds with no sat truck. Which is why the feeds always break or at best they are terribly slow and chopped. But then again USATF is a joke too. So it fits. Dont pay for this. Not worth it.

THEY ARE DESTROYING TRACK AND FIELD.

Can you say Olympic Triplecast blue channel??

When you took out the sportsbars with multiple TVs type buyers that took it as advertising selling point-All The Olympic All The Time!!!. They might have sold 75,000 household subscription nationwide. The projected 3 million plus buyers from all 25 sports (150 specific medal events or disciplines) most likely came from the same market research company that advised USATF on this idiocy.

I was really looking forward to watching every minute of the trials.

Next USATF will tell us the live results will be behind a paywall too!.

wineturtle wrote:

Next USATF will tell us the live results will be behind a paywall too !.

. . . don't give them any ideas.

wineturtle wrote:

Can you say Olympic Triplecast blue channel??

That was 1980. I bought it. it had 3 channels. $125. I had to pickup the box at the Cable TV Office. The show from Barcelona was o.k. Most of the time it just showed a static live image with no action. I recorded many hours on Betamax.

andicamp wrote:

Why don't they just have commercials to make money? Is it because they don't think anyone would advertise?

Who is going to advertise? What company is going to be willing to pay a lot of money for viewers that won't even spend $8 on something they are supposedly a fan of? Advertisers expect a return on their money. It's not a charity.

Runners are just not a valuable demographic. They want everything for free. They are boring. Their main product (shoes) are only bought once or twice per year.