How is sodium bicarbonate used??

You put it under you tongue right before you start a race, start swallowing at about 200m to 400m.

One would have to take exhorbant amounts for this to be even remotely effective as a physiologic acid buffer regarding performance. Massive amounts results in...well...massive GI upset.

Wrong, Arm & H. From the American College of Sports Medicine.

Soda Doping Raises Ethical Issues as Performance-Enhancing Aid

Researcher says sodium bicarbonate should be banned from competition

INDIANAPOLIS– Although a researcher has found considerable evidence that ingestion of baking soda prior to an event heightens performance, he believes the method should be banned as an ergogenic aid. ...

https://www.acsm.org/about-acsm/media-room/acsm-in-the-news/2011/08/01/soda-doping-raises-ethical-issues-as-performance-enhancing-aid

I thought it was banned? It certainly is in horseracing because of its performance enhancing capability.

mix some baking soda into water and it will be used as a buffer. Your body produces H+ ions that cause acidity in the blood. Baking soda is alkaline and will counteract some of the H+ ions produced. Don't do too much or you will poop your pants.

+H + -OH = H2O

Yeah. Tried it. Crappy result.

So how exactly are you supposed to use this method..? I am willing to try it and give you guys feedback on it. I'm a high school 400/800m runner.

Nah, google the actual paper/research. This is old news. It has extreme selection bias, as well as a significant low power of study due to so few of participants. The cause/effect relation is negligible. Very poorly done study.

majorkey wrote:

So how exactly are you supposed to use this method..? I am willing to try it and give you guys feedback on it. I'm a high school 400/800m runner.

Don't bother. You would have to take an enormous amount. So much so you would likely experience very unpleasant stomach/intestine effects. If your timing was bad, yuck.

Arm and Hammer wrote:

Nah, google the actual paper/research. This is old news. It has extreme selection bias, as well as a significant low power of study due to so few of participants. The cause/effect relation is negligible. Very poorly done study.

So, you don't want this PED banned because it only works if you know how to use it properly.

Your body is very good at maintaining acid/base (and buffer) balance. Seems to me that if you ingested NaHCO3 before the race, your respiratory buffers would eliminate any effect immediately.

H2O + CO2 H+ + HCO3-

Add HCO3- via sodium bicarbonate, the reaction shifts to the left, you breath out a bunch of CO2, and the balance is right back where it started, no?

I guess if you timed it perfectly there could be some benefit, but unless you're mainlining the stuff during the race, I don't know how you make sure that the buffer is being introduced into your bloodstream at just the right moment.

respiratory buffer wrote:

H2O + CO2 H+ + HCO3-

Not sure why the arrows didn't come through, but obviously that should be:

H2O + CO2 (equilibrium symbol) H+ + HCO3-

Okay.. thanks for the feedback. Do you guys know any other clean way to "performance enhancement"

majorkey wrote:

Okay.. thanks for the feedback. Do you guys know any other clean way to "performance enhancement"

Run more

majorkey wrote:

Okay.. thanks for the feedback. Do you guys know any other clean way to "performance enhancement"

Why is this generation so afraid of HARD WORK?

coach deez nuts wrote:

majorkey wrote:

Okay.. thanks for the feedback. Do you guys know any other clean way to "performance enhancement"

Why is this generation so afraid of HARD WORK?

This generation? People have cheated since the first Olympiad. The ancient ones.

same boat wrote:

coach deez nuts wrote:

Why is this generation so afraid of HARD WORK?

This generation? People have cheated since the first Olympiad. The ancient ones.

So then for millennials cheating is OK because someone else did it first. .... Sure thing, cheater.

Pro Use wrote:

Arm and Hammer wrote:

Nah, google the actual paper/research. This is old news. It has extreme selection bias, as well as a significant low power of study due to so few of participants. The cause/effect relation is negligible. Very poorly done study.

So, you don't want this PED banned because it only works if you know how to use it properly.

Huh? A ped? It's in your mom's cupboard right now. Association is not causation...go read the paper. 9 test subjects is laughable. There is no reference in my post associated whatsoever with "proper use" of nahco3 because it doesn't exist. You're just going to have to trust me here that I very much know about what we're discussing. Do some reading on acid/base balance and the utilization of the Henderson/hasselbalch equation. It's actually fairly fascinating stuff, especially when you apply it to your own training.

You are Pro Use, ARM&H ... cheaters never prosper.