any idea how much these guys are compensated? standard salary for their military specialty plus athletic benefits like training camps perhaps?
any idea how much these guys are compensated? standard salary for their military specialty plus athletic benefits like training camps perhaps?
Not all these guys are wcap.
Hillary Bor who won the steeple just missing the Oly A in 8:30.7 is not in wcap (but might get in now). He works a real job as a soldier.
Him and his brothers ran for All-Army at US XC in Feb. One of his brothers, Julius, got deployed to Afgahnistan right afterwards.
As for pay, it is based upon your rank. For a specialist, it is likely less $18k a year. Dan Browne is a Major, so he's making bigger bucks.
$18k + US citizenship is probably a better deal than what a Kenyan college grad can get from Nike.
The standards have toughened up since guys like Nate and Kenny Foster were in:
Men:
100m – 10.07
200m – 20.30
400m – 45.00
800m – 1:46.50
1500m – 3:39.00
5000m – 13:33.00
10,000m – 28:15:00
3,000m SC – 8:32.00
110m Hurdles – 13.40
400m Hurdles – 49.00
High Jump – 2.28m
Pole Vault – 5.70m
Long Jump – 8.05m
Triple Jump – 16.66m
Shot Put – 20.00m
Discus – 63.75m
Hammer – 72.00m
Javelin – 77.00m
Decathlon – 7900 points
20K RW – 1:22:30
50K RW – 3:59:00
Marathon – 2:15:00
Women:
100m – 11.13
200m – 22.80
400m – 51.45
800m – 2:01.50
1500m – 4:10.00
5000m – 15:28.00
10,000m – 32:45.00
3000m SC – 10:00.00
100m Hurdles – 12.85
400m Hurdles – 56.00
High Jump – 1.86m
Pole Vault – 4.47m
Long Jump – 6.53m
Triple Jump – 13.50m
Shot Put – 17.50m
Discus – 59.00m
Hammer – 66.80m
Javelin – 54.50m
Heptathlon – 5750 points
20K RW – 1:33:30
Marathon – 2:35:00
Attenshun wrote:
Not all these guys are wcap.
Hillary Bor who won the steeple just missing the Oly A in 8:30.7 is not in wcap (but might get in now). He works a real job as a soldier.
Him and his brothers ran for All-Army at US XC in Feb. One of his brothers, Julius, got deployed to Afgahnistan right afterwards.
As for pay, it is based upon your rank. For a specialist, it is likely less $18k a year. Dan Browne is a Major, so he's making bigger bucks.
$18k + US citizenship is probably a better deal than what a Kenyan college grad can get from Nike.
Assuming Active Duty....
SPC pay,
Attenshun wrote:
Not all these guys are wcap.
Hillary Bor who won the steeple just missing the Oly A in 8:30.7 is not in wcap (but might get in now). He works a real job as a soldier.
Him and his brothers ran for All-Army at US XC in Feb. One of his brothers, Julius, got deployed to Afgahnistan right afterwards.
As for pay, it is based upon your rank. For a specialist, it is likely less $18k a year. Dan Browne is a Major, so he's making bigger bucks.
$18k + US citizenship is probably a better deal than what a Kenyan college grad can get from Nike.
Assuming Active Duty....
SPC pay,
It's a lot more money than you think.....
Assuming Active Duty....
SPC pay, 2 yr time in service, no depend ants.....Approx $25k a year, plus free healthcare, plus free room and board(barracks and DFAC)
SPC pay, 2yr time in service, plus de pendants (let's say Colorado, Fort Carson)...$45k of which only $25k is taxable, plus free healthcare
Alan
Good to see these guys are actually good runners. In triathalon, the athletes in the WACP are terrible, I hate to see my tax dollars support their cushy lifestyle.
Some of the All Army kenyan Americans like Robert Cheseret and Japheth Ng'ojoy (all American) from UTEP are Army Officers in Active Duty status. Military intelligence and medical service corps officer respectively. They can become officers depending on timing and willingness to take leadership responsibilities.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Lots of folks join the Army as a path to citizenship. I've worked with a handful of these folks.
https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/naturalization-through-military-service-fact-sheetAlan
I figured this was the case. I am friendly with a Kenyan who for a decade came to the US for may-october each year to make some bucks. A 2:18 marathoner probably doesn't stand out in Kenya, but here you'll win almost any 5k-marathon you enter and he'd make a few grand each year and then head home for the winter. Now he's in the US army though doesn't run any more.
my nephew joined army at age 18 and was in Iraq 6 months later.
Your nephew is what the Army family refer to as high speed. By the way, it depends on what career field he chose to be as a service member. The career or MOS vary and you pick what you wanna do depending on how well or how bad your asvab score is. The lower the score, the narrower your options are and you will be most likely to end up in combat arms Mos. So that explains a little about your nephew joining and deploying right away. Hats off for that kid
You don't have to be bitter with this athletes, who told you they are doping?If you cant run like they do,swallow your thing silently.we are proud of them and its just a matter of time you will be seeing them everywhere running well then you will have to shut up and complement their hard work
They still make you run in basic though right? Even if it's only a few miles a day, that's way better than doing nothing for 9 weeks.
Chaim wrote:
They still make you run in basic though right? Even if it's only a few miles a day, that's way better than doing nothing for 9 weeks.
Basic was 2-3mi, 3x week at most.
Alan
Hi Alan/RunnningArt!
Hope your US Army career is fun.
Why wouldn't Alan's US Army career not fun? I agree with everything that he has to say about the army and he is absolutely right. He is probably sharing from an experienced perspective rather than " I think" bs
Question guy wrote:
Guys like Chelimo and Kipchirchir. How/why do they run for the US army? What does the program involve? How are they recruited to it? Where and with whom do they train? Does it expedite the citizenship process?
Why not start the thread as Runningart2004, Alan?