McEntee obviously doped to the gills
McEntee obviously doped to the gills
Verified Australian wrote:
Australia will not be a threat in T&F because there is no pathway for 18-22 year olds like the American collegiate system.. Lots of talent squandered and blame put on shoulders of disenfranchised 20 year olds. Plenty of talent and ability, no pathway to success. When you're 20 and faced with the choice of finding a job to pay off the absurd rent we have in this country or trying to knuckle down with your running, most would choose not to be kicked out to the streets. Maybe they're just soft...
NOt a lot in the US for T&F either.
At least in OZ you can be happy with the wether, the AIS, and no pressure to spend your life pursuing sport's goals.
Totally different in the US. Opportunities are down for male athletes - title 9 is great for women's fringe sports.
And if you manage to get through school without cost, then you're expected to go get a job.
As an aside, I am Australian, had a full ride D1, and settled in the US. A huge population is a great developer of talent. But here its turned top quality steak, into grade A hamburger.
Doesn't look like Sam McE will be headed to Rio
http://rio2016.olympics.com.au/news/exciting-track-and-field-team-announced-for-rio-olympic-games
heck of a ride wrote:
Doesn't look like Sam McE will be headed to Rio
http://rio2016.olympics.com.au/news/exciting-track-and-field-team-announced-for-rio-olympic-games
As the Australian champion he now needs a good Olympic qualifying time and he's probably in.
Need to qualify. wrote:
heck of a ride wrote:Doesn't look like Sam McE will be headed to Rio
http://rio2016.olympics.com.au/news/exciting-track-and-field-team-announced-for-rio-olympic-gamesAs the Australian champion he now needs a good Olympic qualifying time and he's probably in.
Same goes for Gregson.
Verified Australian wrote:
Australia will not be a threat in T&F because there is no pathway for 18-22 year olds like the American collegiate system..
If you're good enough with potential at that age there is always an AIS scholarship and State equivalents, you don't even have to leave your home town/city. There are various levels of assistance and they also help with employment from partnering business sponsors who are prepared to employ and fit in with training.
Read tweet that Nic Bideau's Melbourne Track Club coaches every Australian 800-10,000m Olympian. Is this true?
tracks running wrote:
Read tweet that Nic Bideau's Melbourne Track Club coaches every Australian 800-10,000m Olympian. Is this true?
Not true on the women's side there's a few who aren't. They're top steepler Madeline Heiner is coached by Adam Didyk and there other steepler Vic Mitchell is self coached.
There are also a lot of other athletes that will likely qualify that he doesn't coach - Jeff Risely in 8/15, Alex Rowe in 800, Brittany McGowan in 800, Linden Hall and Heidi See 1500 and a host of others. It's still very early times for qualifying, although the Melbourne Track Club is the most professional squad in Australia by far
not true wrote:
tracks running wrote:Read tweet that Nic Bideau's Melbourne Track Club coaches every Australian 800-10,000m Olympian. Is this true?
Not true on the women's side there's a few who aren't. They're top steepler Madeline Heiner is coached by Adam Didyk and there other steepler Vic Mitchell is self coached.
Heiner isn't in this Olympics team.
Nic is a good coach but the other advantage to coming under his wing is entry to overseas meets, accommodation, contacts, etc because he is also a good manager/agent, this is the input he has with some of the athletes while working and liaising with their coaches.
Not true. wrote:
not true wrote:Not true on the women's side there's a few who aren't. They're top steepler Madeline Heiner is coached by Adam Didyk and there other steepler Vic Mitchell is self coached.
Heiner isn't in this Olympics team.
Married now- Madeline Hills is the name.
http://rio2016.olympics.com.au/news/exciting-track-and-field-team-announced-for-rio-olympic-gamesNot true. wrote:
not true wrote:Not true on the women's side there's a few who aren't. They're top steepler Madeline Heiner is coached by Adam Didyk and there other steepler Vic Mitchell is self coached.
Heiner isn't in this Olympics team.
Ummm yes she is. She's run the steeple qualifier multiple times and won trials. You might be confused because she changed her name to Hills after getting married last year, but she is currently BY FAR our best distance runner.
so dude was right Heiner isn't in the team
McEntee had/has tons of talent. but after his 3:36 which indicated real ability he never ran faster.He just ran 7:47 3K a little while ago, with average first 2K pace..
I think there is a real sense of urgency now as opposed to college as "this is it" run well or do something else, a lot of guys have this epiphany.
Tiernan had been sick right before NCAA's and had to scratch and Jordy had been fighting some illness back to Millrose and thereafter.
In a tactical affair McEntee would always be in it or a close favorite to Tiernan, in a stretched out faster race and healthy , I think Tiernan will run under 13:20, I think you will see this by end of year.Tiernan was very fit prior to illness, a shame he had to scratch.
australia will never be a threat because theyre competing in a sport where most elites are doped to their teeth ! if australia drugged its athletes the way the russians,americans and lots more do,then theyd be up there,or at least further up the pecking order.im not saying all aussie athletes are clean.theyre not.far from it.but in distance running at least,doping for aussies isnt a popular way to go,so very few approach world class.
jeff tallon wrote:
australia will never be a threat because theyre competing in a sport where most elites are doped to their teeth ! if australia drugged its athletes the way the russians,americans and lots more do,then theyd be up there,or at least further up the pecking order.im not saying all aussie athletes are clean.theyre not.far from it.but in distance running at least,doping for aussies isnt a popular way to go,so very few approach world class.
Change the record.
deceptive LR.com wrote:
Why do you purposely ignore the context of his college 5k races? Primarily a miler that ran the 5k in championship races and also ran a 7:54 3k which indicates that he probably wasn't simply a 14:22 5k guy.
Sorry, I was out of the town over the weekend and didn't see your response.
There was nothing deceptive about what I wrote. I noted his PBs and how he was never a top scorer at NCAAs and wondered why he wasn't more of an NCAA force. You in fact answered by saying he mainly ran the 5k in championship races. But one would think if it was so talented at 5k, he'd have run that at Nova and been an ncaa force in that.
Humble bragger wrote:
Tiernan was sick as a dog and didn't run much in the weeeks leading up to this race. He didn't run at ncaas do to this. Poor journalism to just say he was " better " in college.
I was posting my personal opinion on the board. I wasn't writing a journalistic piece.
Again, what i wrote was accurate. Tiernan is/was a way better collegiate runner than McEntee. I do know that Tiernan has been sick but didn't mention it as I was mainly trying to get more info on McEntee. I know he ran 3:36 at age 20 for Nova and was wondering why he didn't do more at the NCAA level.
Sam McEntee didn't make it to Eugene the last two years. He choked at the East Prelims and everybody was shocked. Now he's back and he looks really good. He won the trials and now has a shot to go to the olympics. Anybody notice that Jordy Williamsz screwed the pooch in the 1500? Very weird for a guy who has also run 3:36 as an 18 year old.