11 boys run 4:09.70 or better full mile in one race

Real world issues wrote:

>>To suggest it might mean 1600 is ridiculous since it doesn't

And yet when I talk to parents about their kid's times, when they say "mile", more than half the time they really mean 1600m. Probably closer to 75%. Maybe they just think they are roughly equivalent and don't care to be precise. .

This is EXACTLY why we should have never went to the metrics.

Wow. Pretty damn fast for late March (or anytime for that matter). Seems like the depth of legit milers and 2 milers increases exponentially every year.

outsiderunner wrote:

Wow--great job, guys.

It amazes me how these high school boys, year in and year out, smash the women's world record (4:12), and make NCAA women and pro women (who run 4:30s...maybe) look so slow. I gather this comparison is rather stark at other distances, but it seems very stark in the mile.

It shouldn't be shocking. Compare the test. or any other power hormone and you you realize how doped up the average guy is compared to a woman.

fadfasfdalsfsadou wrote:

outsiderunner wrote:

Wow--great job, guys.

It amazes me how these high school boys, year in and year out, smash the women's world record (4:12), and make NCAA women and pro women (who run 4:30s...maybe) look so slow. I gather this comparison is rather stark at other distances, but it seems very stark in the mile.

It shouldn't be shocking. Compare the test. or any other power hormone and you you realize how doped up the average guy is compared to a woman.

Perhaps, but it just seems pretty stark to me--all of those boys, even the 11th place kid--smoking a world record. In regard to the women, we are talking about seasoned professionals here. For example, Simpson and Rowbury are good for 4:19 or 4:20, right? To think the 11th place boy would destroy them is pretty mind-blowing.

Bold Prediction wrote:

CA State CHAMPIONSHIP 1600 MILE WILL BE SUB 4 WITH SEVERAL BOYS SUB 4 the 1600 MILES!

^^^ this could happen at the SOUTHERN SECTION FINALS and STATE MEET!!

That's the Southern California Championship and Qualifying for the CA State meet for you non Cali people.

A high school only race where the top 4 go under 4!

sdjflkej wrote:

With times like these you'd think the U.S. would soon be dominating the world scene in the mile/3000 and 5000. But I predict that won't be the case. Just another example of doing too much too soon and most of these kids probably won't amount to much in college. To run sub 4:10 you've got to put in some serious training (talent or not). HS is a time to have fun and compete, college is when it becomes a job. I've seen plenty of sub 4 collegiate runners come out of HS never having broke 4:20.

If you have talent and work hard in college you'll reach your potential regardless of your HS times. But it's kinda hard if you're already sick of running by your second year. And there are plenty of decent DI schools out there that will gladly recruit a 4:20 miler with talent.

Word.

If it happens it will happen at Masters Meet, CIF Southern Section. The reason is that the qualifying race is a week prior, and the weather will most likely not be too warm.

At the state meet, qualifying is the day before and there is a good chance that the temp in Clovis can be very hot.

southern section wrote:

If it happens it will happen at Masters Meet, CIF Southern Section. The reason is that the qualifying race is a week prior, and the weather will most likely not be too warm.

At the state meet, qualifying is the day before and there is a good chance that the temp in Clovis can be very hot.

Yeah the 1600 is run around 100 degree weather at state usually. Hopefully it will happen at masters since masters starts around 5:00pm

Herrera also won the two mole in 9:02, nice double.

Guys in my high school ran

Guys in my high school ran under 4:09 all the time. It was no big deal.

Drew Hunter is a strength runner. I don't see him under 4:00, but sub 8:40 I think is a good bet.

GRV4 wrote:

Guys in my high school ran under 4:09 all the time. It was no big deal.

Really? Care to give us some names and tell us where and when you went to high school?

Real world issues wrote:

And yet when I talk to parents about their kid's times, when they say "mile", more than half the time they really mean 1600m. Probably closer to 75%. Maybe they just think they are roughly equivalent and don't care to be precise. Maybe it is just easier to say. Maybe they don't know what they are talking about. The reason doesn't matter, that's just the reality of it.

ok but this isn't talking to random parents at a meet. people here know the difference.

he was lit

new very good video.

Ayylmao wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TduzUnWVT5o

new very good video.

Awesome race! Those guys were really battling!

No, not everyone, The percentage is much better, but I have posted mile times before, and usually someone will ask if that is a real mile time or a 1600m.

I used "full mile" in the title just to try to be absolutely clear, but I am amazed that somehow people find that one extra word can cause so much distress they have to comment on it, rather than just read over it.

I thought if this was a place for serious runners, this thread would generate comments like "Is that the fastest 11th place time EVER in a high school meet?" Or maybe for a race where all the competitors are from one state? But none of that, but quite a bit a nit-picking about the thread title. "Full mile"? "Boys" ?. Does the title really interfere with your understanding? The important thing was the race, not the thread title.

Sorry, but if I make a similar post again, I will use "full mile". I don't think it is incorrect. Apologies in advance.

Here's hoping for more discussion about great running achievements, and less about the details of the subject title.

Translation.... wrote:

Yes. Notwithstanding your sarcasm, I'll provide a serious answer. As I'm sure you well know given your years on this site, US boys/girls largely compete for their schools and ages are not typically given. If any further information is given, it will be their grade in school (up to grade 12).

"Boys" over here means high school or younger (grade 12 or younger).

Having said all that, I'm not sure why you posted since I can't imagine you didn't know this and it failed as humor (humour) if that was your intent.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

11 'boys' - is there an allergy on this site to giving runners age

How do know how the system works in America

You still have not given the age - HS goes to 18 but I would not consider an 18 year old a boy