It would be equal treatment to require a physical exam and, along with it, blood and urine tests, of all athletes at the World and Olympic Games.
It would be equal treatment to require a physical exam and, along with it, blood and urine tests, of all athletes at the World and Olympic Games.
I wonder if she'll eventually get the 2012 gold. And Jelimo (2008 champ) might get silver. Considering the gold and bronze women are dopers.
jeff tallon wrote:
semenya,francine niyonsaba,margaret wambui,and dorcas ajok
If these persons run a race in North Carolina they'll have to use the men's locker rooms.
DISGUSTING TRANNY
Alan Webb's Goggles wrote:
So you claim to know that Semenya does not have undescended testes. And that this is a "condition that occurs in newborn baby boys" (obviously you then try to claim that "internal testes" is something entirely different and make no comment on whether you know that Semenya has these or not.
(no idea why you would know such intimate detail but its presumably something to do with your self-proclaimed omnipotence, which unfortunately isn't apparent from what you post).
Would you like to explain the difference between undescended testes and internal testes? And how you can possibly know whether the individual in question has either (bearing in mind that hardly all undescended testes are treated at birth).
Then try to have a little think about the reasons a child might be raised as female if the male sexual organs are not visibly present, particularly in a poor part of South Africa.
Then think about how you really know whether or not Semenya doesn't have any form of mature testes in her body. (how you would know this is a little bit disturbing, but lets let it lie).
Its even more disturbing than your claim that the effects of testosterone on behaviour has no competitive advantage.
Who are you trying to fool, and why? Why are so afraid of someone asking perfectly reasonable questions, and why are you trying to humiliate anyone who does so? Do women keep beating you in races and are you trying to get back at them by messing up their sport?
Its only in recent years that women have been "allowed" to run farther than 800m in competition. Clearly some men are still so uncomfortable with them running that they have to make up all sorts of excuses for other individuals to get into that category to even things up.
I am very confused about your post and as to why you are so upset over this. Which women am I trying to get back at lol? If you read my earlier posts, you would see I am of the opinion that individuals with hormone levels that exceed what is categorised as female should not be allowed to compete in the female category until their hormone levels are either brought down into the normal range or it is proven that their hormones are not giving them an advantage in sports.
Unfortunately for Caster Semenya, these intimate details about her were made public. I'm not omnipotent lol (I think you meant omniscient), I just read the news. The results of her gender tests showed she does have internal testes instead of ovaries, hence her testosterone levels are higher than other women's. They are not fully formed testicles as her level of testosterone is nowhere near a males, about 3 times less than the average man. If they aren't fully formed, they aren't undescended, they could be fused with other parts of her internal sexual organs, we don't know. Also, there is most probably nowhere for the testicles to 'descend' to, as it is incredibly unlikely that she has a penis and scrotum, given she needed tests to attempt to discern her gender and has been raised as a girl.
She has Androgen Hyperinsensitivity Syndrome. This has lead to her physical condition during gestation, but also means that she doesn't respond to testosterone in the way that others do (insensitive). So it is entirely possible that the testosterone does not give her an advantage, but as I said already, I don't think she should get the benefit of the doubt until that is determined through tests. As for the behavioural side, if she acts like a typical male, that doesn't help her run better. Surely that is obvious?
female athletics is a joke wrote:
big 800 fan wrote:why don't we create a third olympics. We have the regular olympics, the paralympics and hyperandrogenism olympics.
We just need to restrict the women's events to those without a Y-chromosome. Anyone with a Y-chromosome must compete in an open class. It's so simple. And they did it in Worlds 2002. But for some reason it's politically incorrect. The losers are those without a Y-chromosome, i.e. REAL WOMEN, who have no chance competing against Y-chromosome humans.
They used to call 'em Hermaphrodites.
Why does Rojo think a thread speculating on the genitals and gender of athletes is ok, but discussing the results of the Raleigh Relays in censored?
There are clearly at least 3 genetic males competing in the w 800m at the moment. This needs to be resolved very quickly. The sport cannot afford another mockery
theres also that zambian 400 metre runner,kabange mupopo.possibly genetically male,or at least mixed gender.
Too late. Ajee Wilson is the most unlucky XX female in running history.
Strip it back wrote:
There are clearly at least 3 genetic males competing in the w 800m at the moment. This needs to be resolved very quickly. The sport cannot afford another mockery
babe didriksen would have real problems competing today.even then,her gender was questioned.she had a prominant adams apple,masculine jaw,facial hair,and she did not look like a woman.she had a very obvious intersex condition,either far too much testosterone,or she was mixed gender.
Actually talking about athletics now;
I'm gonna predict Semenya runs 1:54 low this year.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing