Centro Says He Will Eventually Move Up

Why eventually? Why not race the 5000 as part of the season?

Here's Jonny wrote:

He says they have done less heavy lifting this year.

http://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/centrowitz-talks-world-champs-doping-scandals-and-march-madness

A lot of guys say this. Few do it when remotely in their prime (i.e. not some 30+ year old runner)

If he thought that Mo was not running the 5 or was vulnerable in the kick, he might go for it in a championship race. Maybe 2019/2020.

Centro is smart. The mile/1500 is where you gain the most from having an IQ above the other competitors. So moving up won't be a good idea for Centro.

Most mid-d people move up as they get older and lose some of their top end speed.

Heptathlete wrote:

Most mid-d people move up as they get older and lose some of their top end speed.

Yeah, is that so? I would have never guessed this. Oh boy, it is time for me to reevaluate everything I thought I knew.

lefty leftorino wrote:

Heptathlete wrote:

Most mid-d people move up as they get older and lose some of their top end speed.

Yeah, is that so? I would have never guessed this. Oh boy, it is time for me to reevaluate everything I thought I knew.

Why so salty?

To the east side?

To the east side?

George and Weezy wrote:

To the east side?

Yes, to a dee-luxe apartment in the sky. Loved George and Weezie.

But seriously, I think he subconsciously wants to beat his Dad's record. (13.12) Freudian analysts claim that all sons feel they are in competition with their father and often feel in a battle against the father..

MortieMeek wrote:

George and Weezy wrote:

To the east side?

Yes, to a dee-luxe apartment in the sky. Loved George and Weezie.

But seriously, I think he subconsciously wants to beat his Dad's record. (13.12) Freudian analysts claim that all sons feel they are in competition with their father and often feel in a battle against the father..

Matt will have to go a lot faster than that do show up his dad, who didn't have the full-time perks and supplements of a NOP set-up. Probably with 15 seconds.

MortieMeek wrote:

George and Weezy wrote:

To the east side?

Yes, to a dee-luxe apartment in the sky. Loved George and Weezie.

But seriously, I think he subconsciously wants to beat his Dad's record. (13.12) Freudian analysts claim that all sons feel they are in competition with their father and often feel in a battle against the father..

You could say the same thing about any record. A brother's, cousin's, school, course, etc.

with his speed, it shouldn't be a problem to go sub-13. Perhaps close to

12:50???

Moving from 1500 to 5000 is a very challenging thing to do. not many milers do it and have the same level of success at the longer distance that they enjoyed at the shorter one. Of British runners Cram and Ovett never really made it - although both were significantly beyond their best as 1500 runners when they tried the move.

mark b wrote:

Moving from 1500 to 5000 is a very challenging thing to do. not many milers do it and have the same level of success at the longer distance that they enjoyed at the shorter one. Of British runners Cram and Ovett never really made it - although both were significantly beyond their best as 1500 runners when they tried the move.

Well Matt was a better 2 miler in high school and has already run ~13:20 off his 1500 training so I'm not worried about his transition. He'll do fine if he decides to make the switch and fully commit.

fair comparison wrote:

MortieMeek wrote:

Yes, to a dee-luxe apartment in the sky. Loved George and Weezie.

But seriously, I think he subconsciously wants to beat his Dad's record. (13.12) Freudian analysts claim that all sons feel they are in competition with their father and often feel in a battle against the father..

Matt will have to go a lot faster than that do show up his dad, who didn't have the full-time perks and supplements of a NOP set-up. Probably with 15 seconds.

Dad's choice of supplements was a little different.

Nick Willis? Farah? Yeah they've really gone downhill in the speed dept past 30.

Other options wrote:

mark b wrote:

Moving from 1500 to 5000 is a very challenging thing to do. not many milers do it and have the same level of success at the longer distance that they enjoyed at the shorter one. Of British runners Cram and Ovett never really made it - although both were significantly beyond their best as 1500 runners when they tried the move.

Well Matt was a better 2 miler in high school and has already run ~13:20 off his 1500 training so I'm not worried about his transition. He'll do fine if he decides to make the switch and fully commit.

And Seb Coe was a school champ at 3k and talked constantly about moving up. Seriously think about all the great 1500m runners out there and how many moved up after 25 and had success. The list is pretty much just El G. If you stretch you can get guys like Aoutia and Venuste Niyongabo but they were like 23 when they moved up. Guys like Cram, Cram, Ovett, Coe, and Spivey all talked about being 5k guys. None of them came close to matching their 1500m success. I have no clue if Centro medal odds are better as a 3:30 1500m guy or something like a 13:02 5k guy with good speed

yyy wrote:

with his speed, it shouldn't be a problem to go sub-13. Perhaps close to

12:50???

You're right, because running 12:50 is pretty easy right? Lots of people have done it in the last few years. 12:50 is insane, especially if you're not doped. It is entirely possible that no one clean has ever run 12:50. He won't run 12:50.