Allie O DNF!!!

zogmachine wrote:

Allie "O"-2 in NCAA championship races...

You have a short memory- she got 2nd at NCAA championship in XC. That is not an "O". Or else your memory is fine but you have other issues.

agc5k wrote:

keanu wrote:

why wouldn't you scratch then?

She isn't going to scratch because she's a good teammate.

It's better to not be a good team mate if that is the case.

medial femoral stressie...you heard it here first

I for one am not changing my tune, I just wasn't vocal before. In my opinion running the trials is a terrible idea. She will not make the team and it would amount to ruining a month of her summer training which should be geared towards getting ready for XC.

Hopefully she gets well soon Allie O is a freaking beast best of luck to her.

Dumb wrote:

agc5k wrote:

She isn't going to scratch because she's a good teammate.

It's better to not be a good team mate if that is the case.

Indeed. But without her Boise State's chance to with the championship is ... ah, never mind. Seriously, what the hell does being a good teammate have to do with her decision to run or not? Exactly which teammate was she supporting last night?

Nice to see a good strong run from Erin - she even kept her shoes on this time! :)

We all know injuries are very common, especially when the runner is changing training routines. Given that she was apparently playing basketball at this point last year - I'd say she is going through some pretty major changes in her training cycles/routines. I hope Allie is back in form by XC season - she is an amazing talent.

gnome de plume wrote:

Dumb wrote:

It's better to not be a good team mate if that is the case.

Indeed. But without her Boise State's chance to with the championship is ... ah, never mind. Seriously, what the hell does being a good teammate have to do with her decision to run or not? Exactly which teammate was she supporting last night?

If she can score points it helps her team, which makes her a good teammate by helping her by scoring points.

anno wrote:

medial femoral stressie...you heard it here first

If the bruising is on the medial side of the thigh, yes.

A DNF is not considered differently than a DNS. If you don't go by the honest effort rule, a person can start a race, see that it isn't going well and DNF to rest for a following race. That is not an honest effort according to the rules. To run a subsequent race, she is going to have it signed off by a trainer at the meet (not her own). Otherwise, she is done for the meet. Everybody knows the rule and people enter their athletes with this understanding. If somebody chooses not to start an event, they should be penalized because they took a spot from another person who has to stay home.

NCAA Watcher wrote:

A DNF is not considered differently than a DNS. If you don't go by the honest effort rule, a person can start a race, see that it isn't going well and DNF to rest for a following race. That is not an honest effort according to the rules. To run a subsequent race, she is going to have it signed off by a trainer at the meet (not her own). Otherwise, she is done for the meet. Everybody knows the rule and people enter their athletes with this understanding. If somebody chooses not to start an event, they should be penalized because they took a spot from another person who has to stay home.

So, the K-State pentathlete who DNF'd in the 800 yesterday, will she be allowed to high jump today?

NCAA Watcher wrote:

A DNF is not considered differently than a DNS. If you don't go by the honest effort rule, a person can start a race, see that it isn't going well and DNF to rest for a following race. That is not an honest effort according to the rules. To run a subsequent race, she is going to have it signed off by a trainer at the meet (not her own). Otherwise, she is done for the meet. Everybody knows the rule and people enter their athletes with this understanding. If somebody chooses not to start an event, they should be penalized because they took a spot from another person who has to stay home.

You are entirely incorrect.

A DNF for a medical reason (muscle cramping, for example, or diarrhea) - if verified by medical staff on site - will not preclude an athlete for competing in a subsequent event.

i hope she'll be ok,but id say its too much too soon,overtraining and too many races.shes naturally a slim girl,and super talented.a knee injury and bruising at her age doesnt bode well.

Siedel laps Rohrer at the finish line. Rohrer took 4th even with getting lapped yet two other women thought there were finishing just behind Finn. What a time to learn the importance of knowing what lap you are one. You can see one of them realizing she has to go another lap and taking off probably after someone pointed it out. Hip #8 and #15. I think that was Ednah Kurgat and Tessa Barrett. Ednah still managed to finish 8th and Tessa finished last (not counting Allie). Video at

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/2739191/

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Women's 5000 race is at time stamp 3:04.25.

Count Your Laps wrote:

Ednah still managed to finish 8th and Tessa finished last (not counting Allie). Video at

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/2739191/

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Women's 5000 race is at time stamp 3:04.25.

I looked at the wrong list on Flotrack. They took 9th and 13th. Ednah Kurgat appeared to be several steps in front of Sharon Lokedi at the time so she may have finished 6th had she not stopped prematurely. Tessa Barrett appeared to be in 7th when she stopped prematurely leaning over the line in front of Sharon.

If you lookout history and the cycle of being high school thin to performance for elite females the theory plays true. Athletes get through high school fine , but the added training in college, diet change, collegiate stresses seem to compound themselves, starting a cycle of injury from overload and diet loss.

There are a couple of very good papers written on it. Yes any athlete can be an exception,but you have to look at the path being taken and where it leads to as well. Now is the time to help!

agc5k wrote:

[quote]gnome de plume wrote:

[quote]Dumb wrote:

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If she can score points it helps her team, which makes her a good teammate by helping her by scoring points.

Her team? Really genius? She's the only BSU female at the meet. Or do you mean the one male BSU athlete in the meet? Yeah, wouldn't want to play it safe and jeopardize BSU's shot at the overall team championship.

"There are a couple of very good papers written on it."

Links? Sources?

Like when the message said "to run a subsequent race, she is gong to have it signed off by a trainer at the meet". How is that incorrect?