Wendell Williams a track/football All-American in the sprints and the national champion in the long jump last year from NAIA University if the Cumberlands in KY just set the NFL combine record in the 40y dash at by running 4.19. He also tied the vertical jump record with a 45 inch vertical. Here is the link.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14911089/wendall-williams-university-cumberlands-clocks-419-40
NAIA track athlete breaks NFL 40y dash record
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Actually ran a 4.32
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Worse it was hand timed. You know how they all those 4.4 HS players turn into 4.7 players in college:) I would also question how consistent the surface is event to event (or heck year to year in the main combine).
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I thought a sponsor (Adidas?) was offering 1 million dollars to whoever broke the 40yd dash record in the NFL combine??!
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this was a regional NFL combine, not the "real" combine...
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I like the comment by the guy from University of Michigan:
"The main combine does use electronic timing. Most of these guys at smaller combines get overlooked anyway it's almost a mute point." -
Hand time or not 4.32 is fast and his vertical was legit. Not to mention that he is the talk of combine. Congrats for showing up and taking advantage of his opportunity.
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Oklahoma state just called. They need another sub 4 miler if he has eligibility left.
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His best 100 last outdoor season was 10.35. He got fourth at NAIA nationals.
Also high jumped 6'8". Guy is a legit athlete. -
Also ran 21.08 in the 200 and long jumped 24-10.
http://www.milesplit.com/teams/UNCU/performances/2015/outdoor -
nflspeed wrote:
Hand time or not 4.32 is fast and his vertical was legit. Not to mention that he is the talk of combine. Congrats for showing up and taking advantage of his opportunity.
He is fast. But 4.19 hand timed is like 4.4x autotimed. Fast. But not insane.It is a time that half dozen+ guys run every year. -
Dude is the next Barry Sanders.
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some lunatic wrote:
Dude is the next Barry Sanders.
Well maybe...the next Bernie Sanders. -
The 4.24 record everyone talks about was manual start. This is only the second year the NFL has used a fully automatic timing system.
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asdfads wrote:
nflspeed wrote:
Hand time or not 4.32 is fast and his vertical was legit. Not to mention that he is the talk of combine. Congrats for showing up and taking advantage of his opportunity.
He is fast. But 4.19 hand timed is like 4.4x autotimed. Fast. But not insane.It is a time that half dozen+ guys run every year.
Help me understand this.
I thought human reaction time was around 0.2 seconds. So if 4.19 was hand-timed, I would expect the actual time to be around 4.00 instead of 4.40, since the person holding the stopwatch would have to react to seeing him cross the line later than it happened. What am I missing? -
not a timing guy wrote:
asdfads wrote:
nflspeed wrote:
Hand time or not 4.32 is fast and his vertical was legit. Not to mention that he is the talk of combine. Congrats for showing up and taking advantage of his opportunity.
He is fast. But 4.19 hand timed is like 4.4x autotimed. Fast. But not insane.It is a time that half dozen+ guys run every year.
Help me understand this.
I thought human reaction time was around 0.2 seconds. So if 4.19 was hand-timed, I would expect the actual time to be around 4.00 instead of 4.40, since the person holding the stopwatch would have to react to seeing him cross the line later than it happened. What am I missing?
Are you joking????? The start is the only relevant part. You have to react after the sprinter/gun starts, but the finish line you control when you think the person finishes. -
not a timing guy wrote:
asdfads wrote:
nflspeed wrote:
Hand time or not 4.32 is fast and his vertical was legit. Not to mention that he is the talk of combine. Congrats for showing up and taking advantage of his opportunity.
He is fast. But 4.19 hand timed is like 4.4x autotimed. Fast. But not insane.It is a time that half dozen+ guys run every year.
Help me understand this.
I thought human reaction time was around 0.2 seconds. So if 4.19 was hand-timed, I would expect the actual time to be around 4.00 instead of 4.40, since the person holding the stopwatch would have to react to seeing him cross the line later than it happened. What am I missing?
Basically it's because you react to the gun (or in this case the runner's first move) and then anticipate him crossing the finish line. So hand timing is always quicker than automatic timing. -
not a timing guy wrote:
asdfads wrote:
nflspeed wrote:
Hand time or not 4.32 is fast and his vertical was legit. Not to mention that he is the talk of combine. Congrats for showing up and taking advantage of his opportunity.
He is fast. But 4.19 hand timed is like 4.4x autotimed. Fast. But not insane.It is a time that half dozen+ guys run every year.
Help me understand this.
I thought human reaction time was around 0.2 seconds. So if 4.19 was hand-timed, I would expect the actual time to be around 4.00 instead of 4.40, since the person holding the stopwatch would have to react to seeing him cross the line later than it happened. What am I missing?
Are you trolling or are you actually this thick? -
not a timing guy wrote:
asdfads wrote:
nflspeed wrote:
Hand time or not 4.32 is fast and his vertical was legit. Not to mention that he is the talk of combine. Congrats for showing up and taking advantage of his opportunity.
He is fast. But 4.19 hand timed is like 4.4x autotimed. Fast. But not insane.It is a time that half dozen+ guys run every year.
Help me understand this.
I thought human reaction time was around 0.2 seconds. So if 4.19 was hand-timed, I would expect the actual time to be around 4.00 instead of 4.40, since the person holding the stopwatch would have to react to seeing him cross the line later than it happened. What am I missing?
Because you anticipate the runner crossing the line. The faster the runner, the more you anticipate.
We used to do all sorts of things to combat this: close one eye so you couldn't see him coming, say "lalalalalalalalala" so you couldn't hear them approaching... and you CAN get really close, closer than the .25+ difference that some posters have suggested... but electronic timing will always be more accurate. -
Chet Manly wrote:
not a timing guy wrote:
asdfads wrote:
nflspeed wrote:
Hand time or not 4.32 is fast and his vertical was legit. Not to mention that he is the talk of combine. Congrats for showing up and taking advantage of his opportunity.
He is fast. But 4.19 hand timed is like 4.4x autotimed. Fast. But not insane.It is a time that half dozen+ guys run every year.
Help me understand this.
I thought human reaction time was around 0.2 seconds. So if 4.19 was hand-timed, I would expect the actual time to be around 4.00 instead of 4.40, since the person holding the stopwatch would have to react to seeing him cross the line later than it happened. What am I missing?
Basically it's because you react to the gun (or in this case the runner's first move) and then anticipate him crossing the finish line. So hand timing is always quicker than automatic timing.
Yep. And whenever you compare electric 40 times to say a 100m race split, you need to remember that the clock starts on the gun during a 100m race while it starts on movement for the 40yard guys. Call it .1s+.
I must admit I was a bit shocked that Trindon Holiday wasn't faster and bummed that Demps skipped it.