Nick Willis had some fascinating things to say about doping today. Plenty of good and bad news!

I thought that the top 10 and now proposed top 20 would be on the IAAF whereabouts system. Is there evidence that there are lots of missed tests or test failures in this group.

I would have thought that the problem was that certain nations were not testing those outside the top ten or twenty and as such the plan from Willis is meaningless .

Most of you guys are drooling morons. Who says Nick Willis is clean?

So there could be a lot of dopers, or not, and we treat Willis's half baked thoughts like they are off the dead sea scrolls? He's just a jock, nothing more.

A lot of you (and even Nick himself) don't seem to realize that the biggest effect of his proposed rule wouldn't be the pressure on the ATHLETES to move -- it would put a TON of pressure on these COUNTRIES to upgrade their testing to modern standards simply to keep their best runners, best coaches, best training camps, etc. from having to move elsewhere.

Great idea, Nick.

wineturtle wrote:

As an aside---

How many Chairmen of the Board are their?

Martin McGrady was, as far as I know, the first to hold the title.

I know Eamonn Coghlan also had that nickname in his indoor prime.

Lance did not fail a drug test even though he was doping and only after his career was he found guilty. Was he ever banned? No.

Maybe Gatlin was not marketable, he seems to be now as it's he against The golden boy Bolt. In 88 it was The golden boy Carl vs the brooding Johnson. Vince McMahon couldn't script it any better.

How much was Gatlin paid to run in 06 was it the type of money Geb, Tergat, El G were getting? Or Johnson and Lewis 10 years earlier? Does he get the same as Bolt?

Gatlin and Gay are lucky that they are the perfect foils for the Jamaican team that everyone wants to watch. The world loves watching the little Jamaicans beat the ugly Americans in a 4x1. It doesn't matter who's clean or not as long as they race and the stands are filled.

Many Kenyans are obviously dirty but we love the story of these poor kids who run 10 miles to school and love watching them dominate, that's why they're paid to run road races all over this country along side the 45 minute 10k hobby joggers.

Follow the money trail.

I understand what he is saying but I think the solution is flawed.

I like watching the guy and have rooted for him for many years. That said, I don't think I learned much from his statements and I get the impression that he is going off guesswork and rumor. It's different if we are going off of test results or direct testimony.

Btw, a person just saying 'i heard x is a doper 'is not libel if it is true that you heard it and you do not know that the statement is not true that the person is a doper

Read carefully wrote:

Any advanced nation of the athlete's choosing.

It solves the problem of shoddy out of competition testing.

If it were required to be eligible, it would happen.

YOU misinterpreted it thinking they all must move to once camp or one city. Just admit it and own it already.

It wouldn't happen.

And it won't happen.

And it wouldn't matter whether he gave Flagstaff or London or Moscow as an example, it still isn't going to happen.

Willis doesn't make single mention of "nation of the athlete's choosing".

It doesn't solve any problem at all. If anything, bringing more moneyed up elite athletes into nations with more resources to utilize newer technologies heightens the potential for undetected drug use.

Everything being put forward is done so on hearsay and conjecture. One could just as easily, and potentially far more rationally, argue that because we're seeing increases in drug busts of athletes from these countries he's singling out, it suggests that resources being used in places like Flagstaff are simply ahead of the game.

It's Never Going To Happen.

What is, exactly, an "advanced nation"?

Jeff Wigand wrote:

coach wrote:

The untouchables could live in a WADA home and still be deemed clean. If you bring in the money, sell the tickets, create the buzz you won't be caught.

Someone's never heard of Justin Gatlin or Tyson Gay.

Have you heard of Bernie Lagat?

igf-1 lr3 use in track is biggest ped scandal ever

due to complete silence.

nick why wud cera be used, detected for ages