Galen Rupp Became a Marathoner Too Late in His Career

Radio silence to the request for real evidence. And to the request for proof of doping, based on admissible evidence, on a balance of probabilities standard. Shocking. You seemed to know everything. Until someone asks for a little evidence. Then you know nothing.

drunk runner. wrote:

Yeah it is me wrote:

Galen's Olympic Trials win was a joke. Galen managed to beat a 40 year old. It would be like defeating Lagat in the 5000m now. Not much to hang your hat on if you're Galen Rupp.

If you were watching the same race we all were, HE WAS JOGGING!!!

You sound like a bitter old woman.

No bitterness. I am simply smarter than you. Yeah, Rupp was not going all out, but so what? He faced little pressure against such a mediocre field. This U.S. marathon team is weak.

Reddeer wrote:

Radio silence to the request for real evidence. And to the request for proof of doping, based on admissible evidence, on a balance of probabilities standard. Shocking. You seemed to know everything. Until someone asks for a little evidence. Then you know nothing.

I know that Carlos Lopes blood doped. There you go. What evidence are you anticipating? How stupid are you? Of course Galen is doping. That is the Salazar way. Alberto admitted that you cannot be one of the top runners in the world without doping. I believe Alberto was actually being honest at that point. You need more intelligence.

What is your source for saying "Alberto has actually now admitted that Galen would have virtually no chance to medal at 5000m currently."I don't necessarily doubt it. But I don't recall Alberto saying such a thing. Even if he believed it, I would be a little surprised if he was public about it. But admittedly I haven't followed up on all news about Salazar/Rupp recently.

Just out of curiosity, has Galen Rupp's done anything right in his career? Or for that matter had any good performances? For a substantial number of people on this messageboard it seems the answer is no.

Gurgle wrote:

Just out of curiosity, has Galen Rupp's done anything right in his career? Or for that matter had any good performances? For a substantial number of people on this messageboard it seems the answer is no.

Galen has had some stupendous performances. How stupid are you not to know that? I really feel if you don't know, you could google him. Galen is one of the best U.S. runners of his generation. No doubt.

Rupp's a great 26.2 prospect. But his 2:11 means a lot of question marks vs the 2:03, 2:04, 2:05'ers. A 20 mile workout is not the same- The last 6.2 are too significant. 26.2 is always wait-see.

It should be noted that among recent American marathoners to medal in the Olympics, Frank Shorter was 24 and 28 when he won his medals, Joan Benoit was 27 and Deena Kastor was 31. All had run marathons for years before winning their medals. Kenenisa Bekele was 31 when he made his marathon debut and hasn't run faster since. In hindsight, it certainly seems true Bekele waited too long to make his marathon debut. He appears to have aged out of not only the marathon, but competitive running in general. The last two men's marathon world record holders, Dennis Kimetto and Wilson Kipsang set their records in their early '30s, but they too had years of marathons behind them. While it's too early after only one marathon to say Rupp moved up too late, he probably doesn't have the luxury of 3-4 years running marathons before his skills decline in general.

schultzj1 wrote:

...In addition, Rupp recently did a workout at 4:52 mile pace for 20 miles. That is roughly 2:07:35 marathon pace. That was without a kick, without competition, without pacers, and without his heart rate ever topping 149...

It always amazes me that folks take self-reported workouts (or coach-reported workouts) at face value.

Heart rate never topped 149? Yeah right! If that claim doesn't get you laughing out loud then I've got this great bridge you might be interested in purchasing.

Rupp2016 wrote:

Carlos Lopes ran his first marathon at 35. At 37, he won the 1984 Olympic Marathon. At 38, he set a world record for the marathon. This was nine years after he won the World X-C Championships and an Olympic Silver in the 10,000. Remind us again - why is Rupp too old to become a marathoner?

First remind me again why one data point is significant.

drunk runner. wrote:

This is complete nonsense.

He focused on the 10,000m and got a Silver Medal in London beating Bekele (World Record Holder) and was right behind Mo Farah who was virtually unbeatable in London. Now he's moving to the marathon and I believe the timing is absolutely perfect. Time will tell...

Hey if you believe that Rupp will do well in Rio that's great. You might well be right.

But can you please stop posting such unforgivably lame rhetoric in trying to make your case? Bekele was in nothing even remotely approaching his world record form in London. Therefore him being the World Record Holder is 100% IRRELEVANT.

Please, there is only so much stupidity one should be asked to take.

First: Right. Not a big deal, but you had to make sure to post here and continue to respond to every post. Sure, bud, not a big deal.

Second: You can make that assertion about men and women based on mounds and mounds of data. What are the mounds and mounds of data that you're basing your Rupp evidence on?

I think you are very wrong. Since this is LR, I can't be logical without cursing. You are an a-hole. There ya go. "Your welcome"

Yeah it is me wrote:

This U.S. marathon team is weak.

Compared to what?

You'd have to be a real moran to think Galen won't metal in either event this year.

Yeah it is me wrote:

When you say that "Rupp should run a 2:05 within the next few years," it reminds me of all the fanboys who asserted with equal confidence that Rupp should run 12:50 or faster within the next few years.

You also have no idea when you state that "prime marathon age is often past 30," and then start discusing Geb. For all we know, Geb would have run 2:02 in his mid to late 20s. We have no idea and we will never know. Rupp moved too late to the marathon if he wanted to be the best marathoner he could be. Now he will run a few 2:07 or 2:08 marathons and people will all be waiting for something faster. It will NOT happen.

I know right? and the ones who said he should run under 26:50 for 10K. Ohh wait.

You must be a Trump supporter.

chechmate wrote:

Yeah it is me wrote:

When you say that "Rupp should run a 2:05 within the next few years," it reminds me of all the fanboys who asserted with equal confidence that Rupp should run 12:50 or faster within the next few years.

You also have no idea when you state that "prime marathon age is often past 30," and then start discusing Geb. For all we know, Geb would have run 2:02 in his mid to late 20s. We have no idea and we will never know. Rupp moved too late to the marathon if he wanted to be the best marathoner he could be. Now he will run a few 2:07 or 2:08 marathons and people will all be waiting for something faster. It will NOT happen.

I know right? and the ones who said he should run under 26:50 for 10K. Ohh wait.

BTW, I think it would be fantastic if Rupp comes back next summer and races a couple 5000's and gets that AR, much like Ritz did coming off marathon base. If he can come up with a good 3000 indoors shortly after this marathon I'd have no reason to believe otherwise. You'd have to be denser than oak to not understand that a 3:50/7:30/26:44 guy can't go under 12:50. It's just a matter of right time, right place.

hehe, keep living in denial mate. but the best years are behind him argument is compelling, someone like you breathes life into this claim every years since he was a college junior it seems. good news, keep running with it and one day you will be right. you'll have to admit that claiming it for 10 straight years makes you a bit of a moron, but at least you'll finally be right!