Big-o-USADA wrote:
99.99% of runners know the Salazar and his NOPers are DONE. They are happy the NOP program's days are numbered. Besides the fact that NIKE can sell any Rupp branded, anything. No money being made off of Rupp. Sunk costs only.
Good riddance to cheater Salazar.
Sorry, but nothing will happen to NOP. You're singing a old song :). Besides that fact if NOP doped, THEN SO DID ADAM AND KARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leep Fro00 wrote:
Big-o-USADA wrote:99.99% of runners know the Salazar and his NOPers are DONE. They are happy the NOP program's days are numbered. Besides the fact that NIKE can sell any Rupp branded, anything. No money being made off of Rupp. Sunk costs only.
Good riddance to cheater Salazar.
Sorry, but nothing will happen to NOP. You're singing a old song :). Besides that fact if NOP doped, THEN SO DID ADAM AND KARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree Kara and Adam were dirty too.
What was the over under on her blubbering at the finish line...again?
The amount of leeway she gets because she is a 37 year old woman is astounding. If Rupp had criticized her after the race he would have been destroyed by the media.
All she had to do when asked about Rupp and Salazar was say "No comment. Today is not the day to discuss it."
It was one of several examples of her using her female emotions to turn the spotlight on herself again, similar to when she bawled her eyes out before finishing NYCM in 2:37. She received more attention then the winners for that temper tantrum.
Notice in her blog post today she couldn't even apologize for the inappropriate timing of her Rupp allegations, she blamed them on her emotions. Why does she continue with getting away with 12 year old behavior?
Kara's legacy has lost some shine. If she keeps slandering Salazar and NOP without real evidence (tears and feelings do not count, sorry rojo), then I hope they take legal action.
Flanders wrote:
Notice in her blog post today she couldn't even apologize for the inappropriate timing of her Rupp allegations, she blamed them on her emotions. Why does she continue with getting away with 12 year old behavior?
Well, you start with a man, and then take away reason and accountability - Melvin Udall
here and there wrote:
Kara's legacy has lost some shine. If she keeps slandering Salazar and NOP without real evidence (tears and feelings do not count, sorry rojo), then I hope they take legal action.
The person who has lost all credibility is A Duck, er, Eric Lindsey.
This is not true. Most of elite runners know that Kara praised her competitors and gave them full credit after the race. They were there at the trials and you weren't. She was spending time with her good friends Amy and Shalane after the race, two of the three the women who beat her.This is manufactured shit stirring and scrubs like you are energized by it because this is the only way you can perceive yourself as relevant. Or maybe you're Rojo trolling again. News flash, you're not relevant. Kara has raised the bar for women's running and she is an icon to many elites and to women nationally. Elites acknowledge that Kara was inappropriate in her response in the heat of the moment and fried from a marathon in the heat, which she duly acknowledges, but the question itself was very inappropriate and unprofessional.
BigEColorado wrote:
95% of professional runners know Kara is full of Sh*#. They are very happy her days are numbered. Besides the fact that Oiselle can only sells on Titlenine.com. No big box store will touch Oiselle!
na na na na hey hey hey goodbye!
No idea who you are but I can assure you of two things: You're not relevant and Kara did not raise the bar for women's running. Paula Radcliffe, yes. Joan Benoit, yes. Grete Waitz, yes. Goucher, no. Shalane is a WAY better distance runner from 5k, 10k and up to the marathon. Goucher got her 10,000 bronze in a much weaker Osaka field than the Olympics a year later (do your own homework). It's not her fault, just a fact.As for the question that was posed to her, ever hear of "no comment"? Kara made a choice and made that choice before, refusing to talk about things, but not this time. It bugs her to not have people listen to what she has to say. Kara wants to be heard and it "mainly" boils down to the all-american dollar, and of course, her ego. Ask for an IP check or do it yourself. I've never posted on this thread until this post that I just made. I'm not Rojo??? or any other poster. I'm just smarter than you as it's obvious you're clueless and will bend over backwards to defend her words and profanity, which she has no excuse for (but got her what she wanted, publicity).
Pants on fire! wrote:
This is not true. Most of elite runners know that Kara praised her competitors and gave them full credit after the race. They were there at the trials and you weren't. She was spending time with her good friends Amy and Shalane after the race, two of the three the women who beat her.
This is manufactured shit stirring and scrubs like you are energized by it because this is the only way you can perceive yourself as relevant. Or maybe you're Rojo trolling again. News flash, you're not relevant. Kara has raised the bar for women's running and she is an icon to many elites and to women nationally. Elites acknowledge that Kara was inappropriate in her response in the heat of the moment and fried from a marathon in the heat, which she duly acknowledges, but the question itself was very inappropriate and unprofessional.
BigEColorado wrote:95% of professional runners know Kara is full of Sh*#. They are very happy her days are numbered. Besides the fact that Oiselle can only sells on Titlenine.com. No big box store will touch Oiselle!
na na na na hey hey hey goodbye!
LOL ... I am being paid by Alberto to put smack down on Evil Kara. His career is at stake, and his health is a risk :-( . His "winning" athletes provide the money Alberto needs to pursue his enemies to the ends of the earth.
Facts hurt, don't they? wrote:
No idea who you are but I can assure you of two things: You're not relevant and Kara did not raise the bar for women's running.
Paula Radcliffe, yes. Joan Benoit, yes. Grete Waitz, yes. Goucher, no.
Shalane is a WAY better distance runner from 5k, 10k and up to the marathon. Goucher got her 10,000 bronze in a much weaker Osaka field than the Olympics a year later (do your own homework). It's not her fault, just a fact.
As for the question that was posed to her, ever hear of "no comment"? Kara made a choice and made that choice before, refusing to talk about things, but not this time. It bugs her to not have people listen to what she has to say. Kara wants to be heard and it "mainly" boils down to the all-american dollar, and of course, her ego.
Ask for an IP check or do it yourself. I've never posted on this thread until this post that I just made. I'm not Rojo??? or any other poster. I'm just smarter than you as it's obvious you're clueless and will bend over backwards to defend her words and profanity, which she has no excuse for (but got her what she wanted, publicity).
Pants on fire! wrote:This is not true. Most of elite runners know that Kara praised her competitors and gave them full credit after the race. They were there at the trials and you weren't. She was spending time with her good friends Amy and Shalane after the race, two of the three the women who beat her.
This is manufactured shit stirring and scrubs like you are energized by it because this is the only way you can perceive yourself as relevant. Or maybe you're Rojo trolling again. News flash, you're not relevant. Kara has raised the bar for women's running and she is an icon to many elites and to women nationally. Elites acknowledge that Kara was inappropriate in her response in the heat of the moment and fried from a marathon in the heat, which she duly acknowledges, but the question itself was very inappropriate and unprofessional.
Pretty limited retail options: Title IX and their own website. Not sure how they'll ever make a profit like that.Unless it's through their Amazon sales.Or their REI sales.Or any of the dozen or so stores that carry their products in every city in the country...
BigEColorado wrote:
Besides the fact that Oiselle can only sells on Titlenine.com. No big box store will touch Oiselle!
I'm highly relevant, and extremely comfortable with that fact that I have the chops to prove it.Kara Goucher is extremely relevant, dominated at the college and professional level, and inspired high school girls in the 1990s and early 2000s. She elevated US distance running out of the doldrums when it was really weak. It wasn't just the men who struggled in that era.You are irrelevant.Kara handled herself poorly, on that we agree, but she was not reacting to finishing 4th. She was reacting to an inappropriate line of questioning.I'm your intellectual better and I'm also more in the know than you will ever be."You are the weakest link. Good-bye."
Facts hurt, don't they? wrote:
No idea who you are but I can assure you of two things: You're not relevant and Kara did not raise the bar for women's running.
Paula Radcliffe, yes. Joan Benoit, yes. Grete Waitz, yes. Goucher, no.
Shalane is a WAY better distance runner from 5k, 10k and up to the marathon. Goucher got her 10,000 bronze in a much weaker Osaka field than the Olympics a year later (do your own homework). It's not her fault, just a fact.
As for the question that was posed to her, ever hear of "no comment"? Kara made a choice and made that choice before, refusing to talk about things, but not this time. It bugs her to not have people listen to what she has to say. Kara wants to be heard and it "mainly" boils down to the all-american dollar, and of course, her ego.
Ask for an IP check or do it yourself. I've never posted on this thread until this post that I just made. I'm not Rojo??? or any other poster. I'm just smarter than you as it's obvious you're clueless and will bend over backwards to defend her words and profanity, which she has no excuse for (but got her what she wanted, publicity).
Pants on fire! wrote:This is not true. Most of elite runners know that Kara praised her competitors and gave them full credit after the race. They were there at the trials and you weren't. She was spending time with her good friends Amy and Shalane after the race, two of the three the women who beat her.
This is manufactured shit stirring and scrubs like you are energized by it because this is the only way you can perceive yourself as relevant. Or maybe you're Rojo trolling again. News flash, you're not relevant. Kara has raised the bar for women's running and she is an icon to many elites and to women nationally. Elites acknowledge that Kara was inappropriate in her response in the heat of the moment and fried from a marathon in the heat, which she duly acknowledges, but the question itself was very inappropriate and unprofessional.
No, you're not. Insecure would be more like it.
Pants on fire! wrote:
I'm highly relevant, and extremely comfortable with that fact that I have the chops to prove it.
Kara Goucher is extremely relevant, dominated at the college and professional level, and inspired high school girls in the 1990s and early 2000s. She elevated US distance running out of the doldrums when it was really weak. It wasn't just the men who struggled in that era.
You are irrelevant.
Kara handled herself poorly, on that we agree, but she was not reacting to finishing 4th. She was reacting to an inappropriate line of questioning.
I'm your intellectual better and I'm also more in the know than you will ever be.
"You are the weakest link. Good-bye."
Facts hurt, don't they? wrote:No idea who you are but I can assure you of two things: You're not relevant and Kara did not raise the bar for women's running.
Paula Radcliffe, yes. Joan Benoit, yes. Grete Waitz, yes. Goucher, no.
Shalane is a WAY better distance runner from 5k, 10k and up to the marathon. Goucher got her 10,000 bronze in a much weaker Osaka field than the Olympics a year later (do your own homework). It's not her fault, just a fact.
As for the question that was posed to her, ever hear of "no comment"? Kara made a choice and made that choice before, refusing to talk about things, but not this time. It bugs her to not have people listen to what she has to say. Kara wants to be heard and it "mainly" boils down to the all-american dollar, and of course, her ego.
Ask for an IP check or do it yourself. I've never posted on this thread until this post that I just made. I'm not Rojo??? or any other poster. I'm just smarter than you as it's obvious you're clueless and will bend over backwards to defend her words and profanity, which she has no excuse for (but got her what she wanted, publicity).
In the interview linked on the front page, now Kara is saying that her words about NOP were blown out of proportion. Not that I don't agree with the rest of the answer, but that seems to be a bit of a backpedal on the first part.
From
http://therunnerdad.com/catching-up-with-kara-goucher/
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After the race you had some pretty critical words for NOP. Do you feel that the truth will eventually win out, or do you feel that things will simply continue on there as is until a change of leadership comes about? Do you feel that enough is being done to address the issue?
I think my words were blown out of proportion. That being said, I do feel strongly that we need to clean up our sport and that we shouldn’t be afraid to talk about it. I feel like we are currently on the cusp of major change in our sport. There is a new doping case being announced daily. We are actually starting to name people. Now we just need a system to catch people quicker, not always retroactively. I do not feel that enough is being done, but I do feel like people are starting to demand change.
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I can't remember whether I commented on this thread earlier. But I find it highly unlikely with what we have learnt that if Rupp etc were on the sauce that Kara wasn't either. Her husband came 6th in the 2006 WXcountry in an era when like the top 12-15 may have all been on something. And when androgel was found in NOPs hotel room, she had shared the room there.
Still waiting Kara. Just be honest with the public. You were just jelly that you were cut from the team so you made up some lies about the great NOP organisation.
Alberto Salazar Super Fan wrote:
Still waiting Kara. Just be honest with the public. You were just jelly that you were cut from the team so you made up some lies about the great NOP organisation.
Of course she did.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year