Lost a lot of respect for Cam Newton

Lack of professionalism wrote:

Instead, Cam should have stuck around and told us what beer he was planning to drink.

Hahahahahaha!

+1

Cam never got the lesson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeVca9MwDX8

Here is the thing -- in order to get to the level of being an NFL MVP Quarterback, which both players are/were, you basically have to be a prick. You have to be incredibly confident, cocky, arrogant, self-centered, etc. You will never get to this level without those traits. Nice guys finish last. Seriously.

Anyone who thinks Manning doesn't have those traits has simply bought into his squeaky clean advertising image. I live in Indy and I've followed Manning since his first year. It wasn't uncommon for him to throw another player under the bus back in the past. I remember when he called Mike VanderJagt an "idiot kicker" for running his mouth off about their Colts loss to the Jets in 2003, the Colts got beat 41-0 by the Jets, Manning stunk up the field going 14-31 for 137 yards with 2 picks. The kicker missed one field goal -- hardly the difference in the game. That wasn't the only time Manning did that, either. There's long been rumors about his off the field activities, and his recent behaviors vis-a-vis the HGH rumors seem to show his true side -- hire some thugs to intimidate people. He was no choir boy in college, either.

But, we can ignore those traits in him, because he's awkward and goofy, and call out Newton for being the same sort of guy, albeit younger, more immature, and less appearance-conscious.

Whatever.

Agreed. This notion of athletes as 'fine young men' is so WWII. Old, tired, naive, kind of pathetic. None of these guys are classy, all of them are kind of jerks, because that is the required mentality. I'm embarrassed that my generation is dumb enough to still think otherwise. But I have faith that millennials will get this right. If they even end up giving a crap about sports, they won't desperately cling to weird illusions about the character of the 'fine young men' involved.

LOL ... millennials getting "it" right. The me-me-me generation. Newton as a true a-hole will have fewer fans. Fewer fans means less money --the millennial dream is more, more, more money-- for him to grab on to.

FYI. The first millennials was Cain and Abel. They didn't get "it" right, and all millennials since have failed.

FYI 2. Bartleby the Scrivener: A Story of Wall Street, Herman Melville, 1853. Bartleby was the Ultimate Millennials. From a story review:

Bartleby was a very good scrivener. He copied volumes of legal documents for his employer “silently, palely, mechanically,” by a window that looked out on a black brick wall. Bartleby was a very good scrivener, indeed. A pallid, catatonic, distant man was Bartleby. No one knew where he was from, or had ever seen him outside the office. He had no friends. No habits. No distinguishing characteristics. He was simply a good scrivener and that was all that anyone knew. Then came the day that gave all his secrets and eccentricities a new and electric pitch. When asked to perform a common duty, Bartleby, one day, gave the uncommon reply: “I would prefer not to.”

From then on, Bartleby continued in this flat yet firm refusal—as his superior and fellows grew increasingly confused and cross—until he did no work at all, but only stood in a reverie behind his writer’s screen staring blankly at the black brick wall. The lawyer who employed him, being a man of peace and patience, undertook to reason with the scrivener and discover something about him; but the mystery of Bartleby was only accentuated when his employer only learned that he had taken up residence in the office.

Has anyone seen this clip yet from NFL.com? It seems that, during his interview, Cam could hear Denver's interview that were right beside him separated by a curtain or something.

Pretty funny and, for me, put a different perspective on Cam waling out.

You have to watch the embedded video.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000634653/article/cam-leaves-abruptly-after-harris-boasts-within-earshot

The NFL's victory over all of us becomes only clearer when you see that the big story the day after the game of games, the biggest game of the year, is not about the game at all or about other sports, but about a bad press conference for the losing qb. The NFL can blow up an underinflated ball for months and get more press that way than the entire history of track and field.

That clip makes sense of why he got up and left. The Denver guy was saying audibly right on the other side of the screen, as Cam was listening, that their whole gameplan was to make Cam throw the ball. That's why he walked out.

jjjjj wrote:

That clip makes sense of why he got up and left. The Denver guy was saying audibly right on the other side of the screen, as Cam was listening, that their whole gameplan was to make Cam throw the ball. That's why he walked out.

Perhaps the Denver player was simply responding to questions that reporters were asking him about the game...kind of like as if it was a postgame press conference or something.

You're so full of shit you make a toilet bowl look good by comparison.

Some great QBs are A-holes. Some are not. To make such an idiotic blanket statement as "in order to get to the level of being an NFL MVP Quarterback...you basically have to be a prick." shows an IQ somewhere south of that of a retarded earthworm.

Big John wrote:

jjjjj wrote:

That clip makes sense of why he got up and left. The Denver guy was saying audibly right on the other side of the screen, as Cam was listening, that their whole gameplan was to make Cam throw the ball. That's why he walked out.

Perhaps the Denver player was simply responding to questions that reporters were asking him about the game...kind of like as if it was a postgame press conference or something.

Yes, it was Denver's press conference going on beside Cam. But hearing that made it very clear to Cam that Denver knew he would not hold up to the pressure if he was forced to throw the ball. He already felt like crap for losing but to hear that the Broncos planned it that way was pretty tough to hear I would imagine.

It makes a bit more sense now why he walked out. Doesn't excuse it, just explains it.

joho wrote:

Has anyone seen this clip yet from NFL.com? It seems that, during his interview, Cam could hear Denver's interview that were right beside him separated by a curtain or something.

Pretty funny and, for me, put a different perspective on Cam waling out.

Cam wouldn't have heard the other interview if he actually put forth an effort to answer some questions. Zing

how does hearing Denver's game plan excuse his walking out of the press conference? It made him more of a crybaby?

So Denver actually admitted that they made some sort of "plan" to defeat their opponent? That seems rather unsportsmanlike. Those dastards!!!

Missing something wrote:

how does hearing Denver's game plan excuse his walking out of the press conference? It made him more of a crybaby?

Yes, you did miss something. My last sentence.

....hear that the Broncos planned it that way was pretty tough to hear I would imagine.

It makes a bit more sense now why he walked out. Doesn't excuse it, just explains it.

Funny that you're a racist if you speak out on Cam's behavior at the press conference.

Meanwhile lots of black athletes & black people have also expressed their disgust with Cam? Are they racist?

Mark Hill

Stephen Smith

Seahawks DE about Cam -- "that boy a b!itch"

Brandon Marshall -- 'I'm old school. I don't want my QB dancing & acting like Cam'

http://deadspin.com/seahawks-defensive-end-frank-clark-on-cam-newton-that-1757875715

behavior not race wrote:

Brandon Marshall -- 'I'm old school. I don't want my QB dancing & acting like Cam'

He is correct. Football is a team sports. As the team goes, so go the players.

Newton is a me-first egoist. He cares nothing for the team. The team wins, he is the one who won. The team loses, it is their fault he did not win.

Newton is fast becoming the Kobe Bryant of the NFL.

behavior not race wrote:

Funny that you're a racist if you speak out on Cam's behavior at the press conference.

Meanwhile lots of black athletes & black people have also expressed their disgust with Cam? Are they racist?

Mark Hill

Stephen Smith

Seahawks DE about Cam -- "that boy a b!itch"

Brandon Marshall -- 'I'm old school. I don't want my QB dancing & acting like Cam'

http://deadspin.com/seahawks-defensive-end-frank-clark-on-cam-newton-that-1757875715

1) Anyone can be racist. The fact that the people you mention are black is irrelevant.

2) Speaking out against Cam's behavior at the press conference does not in any way indicate racism.

That is all.

jjjjj wrote:

That clip makes sense of why he got up and left. The Denver guy was saying audibly right on the other side of the screen, as Cam was listening, that their whole gameplan was to make Cam throw the ball. That's why he walked out.

Wow, contain Cam and the running game and make him actually beat you throwing the ball? What a novel idea. So unpredictable and I'm sure Carolina had no idea that was going to be the scenario.

That's EXACTLY the defense Carolina would've prepared for, but, in the end, Cam COULD NOT throw the ball. He is a primadonna whose team hadn't faced a defense that good all season. He's no Russell Wilson.

Harris was speaking very matter-of-factly in that interview by the way. Not like he was taking a shot at Newton. Tell you what though, Cam wore black and blue very well last night.