Andrew MF Hunter!!!! 3:58.25!!

not on front page of ESPN yet. no wonder no one cares about track.

now now now...back you your mother's basement...that's a good boy...

Is there any video for this race?

Is Hunter already 'Chronologically Older' than Fernandez was when he went 3:55 at 18 in 2009? (By himself with with nobody to hang onto!) German turned 18 in mid November of 2008 right? - so that still makes him way faster!

Just Say'in......

fkdfjdskfjsdl wrote:

it's such an unusual time in a group that has rarely produced such times at such an age that it is HIGHLY suggestive of PED use.

how many other kids had parents as talented as Hunter's or fisher's?

not to mention grant played soccer until 10/11th grade. so what he starts to run more and then decides to use PEDS? even though he's already good enough for a scholarship without it?

There is no testing at the HS level and he has all the incentive to use PEDs and earn a 250k college scholarship.

grant ran sub 10:20 in 8th grade, i don't think success from day one in running would incentivize cheating. same goes for drew (4:14 or whatever sophomore year for 1600)

THis is why HS phenoms like Webb, Verb, Solinski eventually flamed out - 'injuries' code for cycling off PEDs.

flamed out? 3:46/1:43 for webb, solinsky when sub 27, and basically tore his hamstring off his leg, and do you mean lukas? the kid that nearly died in a biking accident?

i know i shouldn't feed to trolls but honestly give it a rest, this is what you do with your life? hate on successful runners? this is why we don't have a popular sport.

Anybody who is an American citizen should be supporting Hunter. He seems be to be on the right trajectory with training, a great coach, and can clearly run faster than he did today in early February with respiratory congestion. More power to him! Would love to see him go about 3:56 at Milrose and certainly has a shot at taking down 2 mile record as well.

All the other negative crap is childish BS. Let's hope this super talent will continue to realize his potential. Congrats from this old guy!

Awesome for Hunter and Virginia running!

Interesting, when Webb was running all those great times the Washington Post was all over it, as was ESPN. Today? Nothing.

3:42.83

NoVAman wrote:

Awesome for Hunter and Virginia running!

Interesting, when Webb was running all those great times the Washington Post was all over it, as was ESPN. Today? Nothing.

Do you read the front page? Ther is a great post article out today before the race.

In webbs era people weren't irate if there wasn't a full recap right when the race ends.

Callous Disregard wrote:

Makes you wonder what coaches were doing wrong for 30 years from 1970-2000

Pushups. Lack of proper push up technique.

But Still.....? wrote:

Is Hunter already 'Chronologically Older' than Fernandez was when he went 3:55 at 18 in 2009? (By himself with with nobody to hang onto!) German turned 18 in mid November of 2008 right? - so that still makes him way faster!

Just Say'in......

hunter 05.09.1997 - 18 years 8 months

German 11-2-1990 18 years 3 months

Grant Fisher 4-22-1997

So yeah Hunter is older. He is also pretty much the exact same age as Grant Fisher.

Running 3:58 is still an awesome time and we can debate forever the advantage of college training (i.e. just having team mates to run with is nice) versus age.

Drew Hunter DOB 09/05/97. Not 05/09/97.

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Great coaching.[/quote]

Yeah, talent has nothing to do with it.

Flip side is it does make you wonder how many guys do have the talent and never go for it or never even take up the sport.[/quote]

My old coach used to say there are WCs walking around the streets.

Talent is not as rare as people think. But the desire to squeeze it out of your self is. And of course, the opportunity.

kWo wrote:

not on front page of ESPN yet. no wonder no one cares about track.

Happy?

No picture!? Lame.

Ghbgygbybhbbyg wrote:

Webb

Ryun

Hunter

LV

Fernandez

...

He's certainly at least number 3.

Jim Ryun towers above all these other FINE high schoolers. Refer Ryun's 1965 Kansas state meet. Not bashing Hunter or Webb, but they just aren't in Ryun's class IMHO.

messi wrote:

Ghbgygbybhbbyg wrote:

Webb

Ryun

Hunter

LV

Fernandez

...

He's certainly at least number 3.

Jim Ryun towers above all these other FINE high schoolers. Refer Ryun's 1965 Kansas state meet. Not bashing Hunter or Webb, but they just aren't in Ryun's class IMHO.

Ryun ran his 3:55.3 HS record, at the time, and won his race against the reigning Olympic 1500 champ, Peter Snell. I doubt a HSer will ever accomplish such a feat again.

almostcertain wrote:

This is a PED performance.

You can order EPO or steroids by email no questions asked. Very easy to get.

You mean by email in 1966. Hmmm...

agree that this is a PED performance, watch he probably wont come close to these times for years in college bc of testing and will struggle to break 4 mins and all of you will say 'oh he is adjusting to college' - bullshift, he will be adjusting to drug testing.