9 am ET Thursday morning: Official 2nd WADA Press Conference Live Discussion Thread - How bad will it be?

I predict a big promotion for Mr. Pound coming months from now.

Unfortunately you are correct. And that is part of the problem, no checks and balances in place to override a national federation's corruption.

I believe Mulling's story and feel really bad for the guy.

You believe Steve Mullings story because you're moron!

Its a manifest destiny thing. You have to remember both Kenya and Jamaica are Commonwealth countries. Talk about a big promotion, what do you bet that Usain Bolt will be appointed or voted into some high position in Jamaica later in his life? Don't worry, they will train him in what to say and do, just like what happened with the Governator in California, just sign the papers we put in front of you Governor. What are the chances that Jamaica is a tax avoidance haven for wealthy Brits? Would explain why Bolt gets such glowing coverage from the British television announcers, even as he crushes British sprinters. Its all money and politics. The athletes are just little expendable pawns to be used, sacrificed and discarded.

Its a manifest destiny thing. You have to remember both Kenya and Jamaica are Commonwealth countries. Talk about a big promotion, what do you bet that Usain Bolt will be appointed or voted into some high position in Jamaica later in his life? Don't worry, they will train him in what to say and do, just like what happened with the Governator in California, just sign the papers we put in front of you Governor. What are the chances that Jamaica is a tax avoidance haven for wealthy Brits? Would explain why Bolt gets such glowing coverage from the British television announcers, even as he crushes British sprinters. Its all money and politics. The athletes are just little expendable pawns to be used, sacrificed and discarded.

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WTF is this crap.....LMAO

You believe Steve Mullings story because you're moron!

Do you know something about it? Why don't you share it with us.

Hey, welcome back Freud PR!

You are taking the word of two time cheat that lost before the Court of Arbitration of Sports, go ahead and believe him while you at that give more money to that Gofundme he setup....hahahahaha

Hey Tooshort, are you a 5'7" Jamaican sprinter?

What I want to know from someone here is was there drug testing at the 2010 Rieti meet?

Thanks!

Am I overstating this?

- IAAF has been corrupt. Everyone agrees.

- All handling of results pre 2009 renders them useless - so we know nothing of the cleanliness of the sport.

- Russia paid bribes but is more likely than not to be back at the Olympics

- Jamaica and Kenya have no real testing programs that we know of also, for example, what is the situation with Morrocco and Ethiopia

- For the countries that do test, we rely on country federations to enforce.

WADA has nothing to report on Kenya.

-WADA says reporting about IAAF was wrong.

Why do we bother with a testing process at all?

You really think all the pre 2009 tests were mishandled? Bulls**t.

I am restating the official position. I am not saying I believe it.Right now, this is like getting on an airplane - everyone paid a different price,or no price, for their seats. Every starting line at an international race has athletes who had wildly different standards applied to them. We should just announce that with the athlete at the meet "Representing Jamaica, a country with no drug testing program, -----" "Representing Kenya, a country with no drug testing program, -----" Plus everything pre 2009 can just be tossed. Great job!

Except that they weren't wrote:

You really think all the pre 2009 tests were mishandled? Bulls**t.

The pre-2009 samples were not collected for ABP purposes, and it is a mistake to attempt to interpret the values according to the ABP. This was known publicly as early as Dec. 2014. They are useless for ABP, but that is not why the blood was collected. It's primary use was to help target which urine to test for EPO:

- blood analysis is cheap; urine analysis is expensive

- the only approved test for EPO was the urine test

If this is correct, then this is a joke and we shoud scrap the records. We have been hearing about transfusions since at least the 80s. why not try to address that and the new EPO issue at the same time? They should have a sign "Testing for EPO ONLY!"What a disappointing sport.

rekrunner wrote:

The pre-2009 samples were not collected for ABP purposes, and it is a mistake to attempt to interpret the values according to the ABP. This was known publicly as early as Dec. 2014. They are useless for ABP, but that is not why the blood was collected. It's primary use was to help target which urine to test for EPO:

- blood analysis is cheap; urine analysis is expensive

- the only approved test for EPO was the urine test

I guess the wow factor is that only Russians (under the direct orders of Putin himself!) cheat at sport.

There's so much about this that stinks....

For starters, Pound says he's not in the business of adjudicating disputes between scientists, but, then, says the IAAF was correct in not pursuing the off off scores of hundreds of athletes. As if that's not taking sides.

As others have noted, Pound buys Coe's claim that Coe was completely in the dark. Coe was VP for, what? 7 years? And head of ethics to boot!! Shouldn't Pound at least concede that, Coe was, at a minimum, incompetent at his job?? And to punctuate this all, Pound says Coe is the best man for the job right now!?!?

Coe was either corrupt or unable to root out large scale corruption. In what universe does that make him the best man for the job.

Just... Ugh! This is a very disappointing day for the sport.

Guess I was right. This press conference a joke with no meat to it.

So, I haven't read the report. Can anybody tell me what the "wow factor" was?

MUNICH, Germany (Reuters) - Lamine Diack, the former president of the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF), was responsible for organising and enabling the conspiracy and corruption that took place in athletics' governing body, an independent commission of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) said on Thursday.

The commission was delivering the second part of its report, whose first instalment in November led to the banning of Russia from athletics for state-sponsored doping.

Diack, who was replaced by Sebastian Coe as president last August, is under investigation by French police for corruption and was heavily criticised by the report.

It said that Diack "sanctioned and appeared to have had personal knowledge of the fraud and the extortion of athletes carried out by the actions of the illegitimate governance structure he put in place".

The report said the IAAF's governance process was inadequate to prevent corruption, and the checks and balances of good governance were missing.