Who has quit teaching in their 30s and gone off to successfully do something else?

I want out wrote:

[quote]Your girlfriend does wrote:

There is no common core for science. He teaches English or Math.

You're probably not a very good teacher so if you have lost control of the kids over a few years, I agree that it's time to move on. It takes a very educated and gifted person to be a great teacher. If it's just the adults you hate, you're at the wrong school. You can always try moving schools.

You're right. I'm not a very good teacher because I don't give a shxt anymore.

Coaching is different. I could coach all day everyday until the end of my days.[/quote

This actually seems to be the road to teaching happiness, that is, just coach and don't pay any attention to the teaching aspect of the job. Do the absolute minimum as a teacher and hand out "A's". From a kid's perspective, the teachers who don't give a damn and have a sense of humor, are the most popular. Kids don't complain and therefore parents don't complain. Make your name as a good coach.

My kid's coach was, by all accounts, a complete joke of a teacher for about 40 years; unfortunately he was a horrible coach as well, but I know that was the only reason he taught.

You are Ivy so just start writing books, nobody has mentioned it but the most successful ex-teachers are probably all writers.

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You're right. I'm not a very good teacher because I don't give a shxt anymore.

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This actually seems to be the road to teaching happiness, that is, just coach and don't pay any attention to the teaching aspect of the job. Do the absolute minimum as a teacher and hand out "A's". My kid's coach was, by all accounts, a complete joke of a teacher for about 40 years; unfortunately he was a horrible coach as well, but I know that was the only reason he taught. You are Ivy so just start writing books, nobody has mentioned it but the most successful ex-teachers are probably all writers.[/quote]

Wow, lot's of bitterness here. Whatever happened to "it's all about the children" that you hear every time the teachers union want's a raise?

This explains why Johnny can't read and also how Stephen King could write "Carrie" while teaching English in some backwoods Maine high school while drunk and stoned all day. (See his autobiography: "On Writing.")

Most of you folks would be in for a shock once you get into the private sector. You don't earn tenure there just by showing up for a few years.

This is really a good strategy. It's a cynical response but in some ways it's a logical response. The difference between teaching and coaching is that YOU control your team, for the most part you set the schedule, the training and even the kids that participate. You cannot do that in the classroom, in fact it's the complete opposite of that.

Sorry it's not going well, man. If your heart truly isn't in it, take some of the advice given here.

I'm still early in the teaching game, currently in year three. Started as a replacement teacher mid-year in Detroit and got a huge reality check that I was not as ready as I thought as a 22 year old teacher. Now I teach at a private school and it's better but I definitely agree with the fact that you're kind of "owned" by the paying parents, or at least they think so. It's really difficult work with a pretty average pay and not much respect. Like others have said here, however, I find it to be extremely rewarding work. I have friends who make 60-70k as various low level engineers at things like plastics plants where essentially they just approve products to be made in a factory and collect a paycheck every 2 weeks for it. That would be 20-30k beyond what I make but I can't see myself feeling like I contributed to the world/society by adding some more sh-tty products made of plastic to the world.. Think back to the students you've had who you really could see the difference you made in their lives. Maybe there's only one a year, but it's important.

Beyond all the teaching hate on here, I do find it is a pretty good profession to have and still do a lot of running. I work 9-6pm every day with a 30min commute each way and I still manage 90-100 a week with some decent sub-elite times (65/2:20) and my school goes year-round. I could imagine with a summer I could do some serious training!

I'm interested in hearing about the M.Ed being a joke..I'm likely to start my masters next year and was considering it for Admin in the future, should I focus on my subject area (English) instead?

Get a masters degree in something that you could get a job doing that is NOT related to teaching. Don't put all your eggs in the teaching basket. Why not an MBA ?

All education degrees are a joke. However, if you want to move into administration, that's probably the path you want to take.

Teachers are mostly uncreative people hence this whole thread. Get a hobby and figure out how to make money at it and be happy at the same time. Duh.

I'm starting to feel the same way about teaching. It's turning into a factory system. Common core, excessive testing, etc have turned teachers into factory workers. It used to require a real knowledge base and expertise in your area of content and if you had that, admin was less restrictive and trusted their teachers. Know you have to make benchmarks and goals like you're in charge of a class of worker bees trying to produce X number of products in X number of days. It's awful. They're turning educators into trained monkeys. And the M.Ed is a joke. Some of the stuff my colleagues are doing for a masters degree is ridiculous. Professional development is a joke as well. I recently started a Harvard professional development course that, I sh!t you not, had us constructing paper airplanes, using popsicles sticks to erect structures, and watching Youtube videos, all so we could discuss the value of group learning and making that learning "visible". The final project had us presenting a trifold, science project style board with answers to the most vague, elementary questions. It was a joke. And that was HARVARD Professional Development. This is the crux of it all. Teaching is 10% science and 90% art. Right now, the US has that backwards. There is only so much one can measure, quantify, and structure in the world of education.

I teach so I can coach. Thank God they haven't produced REQUIRED national curriculum standards for coaching sports.

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Here's the fix wrote:

You went to Ivy League to end up teaching English and Special Ed? Ouch.

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Why is that ouch? He wants to make a difference in the world. I've never understood why people think the point of life is to make money or live longer. We all die and don't get to take our money with us.

There's a guy called Walter White who did quite well after quitting teaching in his 50s...

Things got a bit complicated for him however...

rojo wrote:

Here's the fix wrote:

You went to Ivy League to end up teaching English and Special Ed? Ouch.

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Why is that ouch? He wants to make a difference in the world. I've never understood why people think the point of life is to make money or live longer. We all die and don't get to take our money with us.

Absolutely. four of the seven Ivy graduates I know were or are teachers or school administrators.

I rest my case: Detroit schools shut down due to teachers' "sick out."

they don't give a crap about the kids.

Detroit Free Press:

Teachers whose organized sick-out shut down more than 60 Detroit schools today demanded that their voices be heard and that the district address what they've described as deplorable teaching conditions.

Their pleas at a rally today received immediate responses.

Mayor Mike Duggan said he would tour schools Tuesday to assess the condition of the buildings. And State Superintendent Brian Whiston called for health and safety issues in the district to be immediately addressed.

Still, both men called on teachers to return to the classroom. And some lawmakers decried an action that had many students missing a day of learning.

The closures affected 64 schools and 31,000 students, DPS officials said. And there were indications that more sickouts could be coming this week.

The afternoon rally — organized by a group within the Detroit Federation of Teachers called DPS Teachers Fight Back

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/01/11/dps-schools-closed-sickouts/78618800/