Oregon Project athletes and sleep

Sorry, I mis-read this and thought it said..

Oregon Project athletes and sheep

Any Which Way But Loose wrote:

Sorry, I mis-read this and thought it said..

Oregon Project athletes and sheep

And thus it was so, that the people of Wales also realized it was "sleep" and not "sheep" and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth

25 posts in a thread about NOP and there has only been one reference to doping. New record?

I think most people don't sleep this much because they have grown used to their schedules. Whenever I take time off work, within a few days I break my normal rhythm and find myself having to set an alarm to only sleep 12 hours.

When I am on my normal, working schedule I fall into REM almost immediately, but when I don't have to worry about waking up I have a lot more light sleep. Then again, I am and always have been a night owl: I am not a morning person whatsoever.

Seriously mate? wrote:

This. Sleep is nature's doping. Training twice a day, napping and getting plenty of sleep at night = 4 big hits of HGH every single day.

I read an article in the past (might have been Runner's World) that Tiger Woods only slept about 5 hours per night...no wonder the guy's body totally fell apart.

Over-training? wrote:

Not being able to sleep is one of the symptoms of over-training.

Getting lots of sleep greatly helps the body produce HGH. Taking a nap during the afternoon also gives the body a second shot of internally produced HGH. All LRC'ers should know this by now.

High end models, the ones making millions a year, also sleep a lot and drink lots of water.

Everyone is different as far as sleep. I remember hearing Michael Jordan would regularly only sleep a couple hours a night.

Personally I can only sleep about 8hrs a night even when I'm at peak running 120+mpw. Without running I only need about 6hrs a night. I just can't sleep anymore than that and I don't nap.

Benjamin Franklin rarely slept and his mile PR was well below 5 minutes. I remember reading about this from Abraham Lincoln's accounts.

I think the article got it wrong. NOP athletes might sleep that much PER DAY, but a lot of them nap between workouts, so it's not 10-12 hours of straight sleep.

At what point would you start to say, this is stupid and pointless? I like my sleep, no doubt about that, but if it got to be 12 hours a day, I'd probably be questioning if it was worth sleeping away some of my prime years, all so I could be a few seconds faster at running in circles.

You could even make the argument that, if you kept that sleeping habit up for long enough, you would be effectively shortening your life. Regular people would be getting about 30% more waking hours than you on a typical day. Granted, you are still alive when you're asleep, but it's not quite the same.

Or look at it this way: would you rather a) get a normal 7 hours of sleep a night while living a happy, productive life, but only being an OK runner, or b) being as fast as maybe Jordan Hasay or Treniere Moser (or the male equivalent), but spending half of your life asleep?

Les wrote:

I think the article got it wrong. NOP athletes might sleep that much PER DAY, but a lot of them nap between workouts, so it's not 10-12 hours of straight sleep.

That would be a lot more reasonable. 8-9 hours at night and an hour nap would be what I was doing if I was trying to be a world class athlete.

While at the 1992 Barcelona Summer Olympics, Jordan, Magic, Scottie Pippen and Charles Barkley were playing poker. Pippen and Barkley eventually got tired and fell asleep around 4:00am and Magic wanted to join them. However, Jordan wasn’t having it because he wanted to win his money back from Magic.

So they played until 6:00am before MJ headed off to bed….for one hour! Upon waking up, he went and played golf, ate supper afterward, then went out and scored 20 points in the first half of an Olympic basketball game. Amazingly, he proceeded to repeat the same poker playing/one-hour-of-sleep/golfing/basketball schedule over the next two days.

I used to sleep with Eric Jenkins, but it didn't last anywhere near that long.

I guess things have changed.

If all that sleep meant 14:50 vs. 14:55 5k than I totally agree with you (assuming it is true - I've never needed that much sleep). If I were an elite runner I would gladly take those few seconds if it meant medal vs. also ran.

Any Which Way But Loose wrote:

Sorry, I mis-read this and thought it said..

Oregon Project athletes and sheep

Well we know Rupp likes to dress up in togas and admire the Greeks. Didn't they also like sheep?

Steve Jones broke the half marathon WR morning after he attended his friend's wedding, and partied until late night. (He also had several pints of cider.)

Sleep is overrated.

The Way We Were wrote:

Steve Jones broke the half marathon WR morning after he attended his friend's wedding, and partied until late night. (He also had several pints of cider.)

Sleep is overrated.

Only for half marathons. Ryan Hall set his half marathon record on 2 hours of sleep when his flight got cancelled. Ritz ran a pretty good half a couple years ago after saying he got no sleep due to the time change.

I remember reading an article pretty recently that the optimum amount of sleep is about 7 hrs. Those who slept more actually saw diminished health returns.

And then there's a term for "short-sleepers", those who are naturally blessed to get by on 3-5 hrs of sleep a night. Such examples are Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Barack Obama, Jeff Bezos, Donald Trump -- a high-achieving group, to say the least.

Without a doubt, I'd rather sleep more and be faster like Jordan or Galen.

Take this from someone who is "successful" earning good money. I'd give it all up to run faster.

LIFE IS SHORT - RUN FAST!!!!

Think about how good you feel after a long nights sleep. Think about how easy it is to get into a routine.

If your life was dedicated to running for 15 years of your life don't you think you'd also sleep 10-12 hours a day? You'd all but have to with the running, cross training, plyos, lifting, core, etc. they all do.

I think you're confusing the word sleep. Here it's being used as a euphemism the same way in which people say they slept with someone when infact they actually had se* with them.

Bottom line is that at Oregon, when they head to 'sleep' this is code for actually engaging in some personal time with other athletes. Their antics are notorious and who can blame them with such high sex drives.

Apparently even Bolt sometimes makes an appearance and has been know to shoot his bolt more than once up there.