Do barbell squats and use correct form.
Do barbell squats and use correct form.
Alan,
Who are you? I hope you don't coach. Every time I see your name, I realize how much more important it is for me to continue coaching. I won't let people with your reasoning have a say in the training of the sport.
From the understanding of the word strength to the interpretation of what strength even meant in the context of the interview.
I hope you are over 50 years old; it would put me at ease.
I know what runners mean when they use the word strength. It's an incorrect use of the word though.
I didn't read or listen to the interview at all.
Not a coach, never have been, never will.
I'm just a guy with an exercise science degree who has both run and lifted at decent levels. I've studied both running and lifting more than one man ever should. I have a better understanding of strength training that most runners.
So when I see young runners lost in the dark doing leg extensions, smith machine squats, or Crossfit I feel it's my duty to steer them in the right direction.
We can argue all day what that direction should be. Usually when runners try to lift they lift too much volume, or they follow some random machine circuit they got from the 80s because their coach doesn't know any better. Even worse they do Crossfit.
All athletes need strength. All athletes need endurance. While improvements in strength will not result in out of this world improvements in finish time for a distance runner it will result in improvements in running economy which may be the difference between winning or losing, or may be the difference between being injured or not.
It's relatively easy to find examples of runner specific weight training. This is cool looking stuff using medicine balls, plyos, sand pits, contra lateral movements, core work and other stuff that "pays the bills" for the author. It is however a disservice to your development doing the cool specific strength training without a general strength training base to draw from.
Alan
That's a lot of words without really saying anything.
People on here say it's wrong yet never say what's right. How about you educate, state some good books to read and/or post a training schedule or link ur do something to benefit others.
Do the Africans do weights??
yyy wrote:
Do the Africans do weights??
Pretty sure they don't use Smith machines for squats.
Is that helpful?
People on here say it's wrong yet never say what's right. How about you educate, state some good books to read and/or post a training schedule or link ur do something to benefit others.
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6942298&page=1#ixzz3w7PWgFfN
Read or watch anything by Dan John, he keeps it simple and let's us know that there's more than 1 way to skin a cat. Read and watch videos by Mike Robertson too. He could articulate better than any of us why leg extensions and smith machines are crap. I like Will Fleming and his Olympic lift progressions and regressions as well. Dos Remedios, Joe Kenn, Mike Boyle, Mark Rippetoe, Gray Cook, Alwyn Cosgrove are some names to look up. The NSCA has training manuals as does NASM and other organizations. USATFCCCA has a strength certification for runners. I've been in this business for over 30 years and can tell Alan knows his stuff as do some others who post on strength topics. When you're young almost anything will get you stronger but Alan and others don't want you to be hurt when you're older. I know the crap I did a long time ago led to my dysfunction and I'm sure kids I coached years ago probably have arthritis now.
Why post a training schedule when everyone is different and has different equipment at their disposal and time constraints.
yes, very helpful.
Boyle, Cressey, Robertson, Cosgrove, Poliquin....there are lots of "name brand" strength coaches out there.
If you search hard enough you may even find an article by one of them commenting about strength training for runners.
The reason why you won't find a good source or book for strength training for runners is that it's not that popular, important, or profitable. Also, the strength training needed is very minimal so any basic routine will do.
I've written schedules on here before and could again but it will follow some basic ideas:
1. Minimal volume
2. Minimal frequency
3. Focused on lower body
4. Start simple
5. Begin with basic bodyweight movements
6. Move to basic barbell movements. First not to failure, just enough to learn the weighted movements
7. Progress to heavy weights (4-6 rep max)
8. Include plyos.
Alan
Alan, hopefully your post made the Donger happy.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Boyle, Cressey, Robertson, Cosgrove, Poliquin....there are lots of "name brand" strength coaches out there.
If you search hard enough you may even find an article by one of them commenting about strength training for runners.
The reason why you won't find a good source or book for strength training for runners is that it's not that popular, important, or profitable. Also, the strength training needed is very minimal so any basic routine will do.
I've written schedules on here before and could again but it will follow some basic ideas:
1. Minimal volume
2. Minimal frequency
3. Focused on lower body
4. Start simple
5. Begin with basic bodyweight movements
6. Move to basic barbell movements. First not to failure, just enough to learn the weighted movements
7. Progress to heavy weights (4-6 rep max)
8. Include plyos.
Alan
Here's a good book.
Strength and Conditioning for Endurance Running by Richard Blagrove.
There are other good books and resources as well.
Coach, i expect Donger is like so many others here. They come here to be miserable. Just look at the subject matter on the board. Running is not that important anymore to LetsRun.