It's just stupid. Don't they know they're wasting all their energy and stored carbs? If they'd just save that for the race they'd run so much faster.
It's just stupid. Don't they know they're wasting all their energy and stored carbs? If they'd just save that for the race they'd run so much faster.
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ok he is probably trolling, but I often see people running 1h-90mins before a race, that seems a bit early for a warm up. I hope they don't run the whole time until the race.
Before a marathon I think minimal warm up is required, you are just wasting energy.
The shorter the race, more of a warm up is warranted. Running one hr. plus? Maybe they are training through a particular race and want to hold the weekly mileage up. Of course a run following the race would be better here.
True any extraneous running just before start of a marathon would be using up energy. Though again if an elite marathoner is planning to start fast (4:45 plus/minus per mile pace), limber legs are needed. Dynamic drills perhaps.
Some people especially when you get older require more warmup than others. If a robber stole my wallet, I would not be able to chase him. My ankles can no longer handle running fast without a proper warmup.
idiots cmon wrote:
It's just stupid. Don't they know they're wasting all their energy and stored carbs? If they'd just save that for the race they'd run so much faster.
you can't be serious?
idiots cmon wrote:
It's just stupid. Don't they know they're wasting all their energy and stored carbs? If they'd just save that for the race they'd run so much faster.
the darndest things!
idiots cmon wrote:
It's just stupid. Don't they know they're wasting all their energy and stored carbs? If they'd just save that for the race they'd run so much faster.
into high school you'll understand.
idiots cmon wrote:
It's just stupid. Don't they know they're wasting all their energy and stored carbs? If they'd just save that for the race they'd run so much faster.
You have valid point; however, if you are running a 100m dash, you are not wasting energy and you should warm up about 45 minutes.
TrackCoach wrote:
idiots cmon wrote:It's just stupid. Don't they know they're wasting all their energy and stored carbs? If they'd just save that for the race they'd run so much faster.
You have valid point; however, if you are running a 100m dash, you are not wasting energy and you should warm up about 45 minutes.
he has a valid point? He was irresponsibly vague with his question. Since you're a track coach I'd be willing to bet you'd want your distance runners running a proper warm-up. Yea or nay.
When I coached HS runners I'd have any/all of them from 800 thru 3200 run a 2 mile w-up. If they're properly conditioned they'll not be wasting all their "energy and stored carbs."
Thank you. I agree that it doesn't matter in distances like 100-200m. But 400m up you just gotta save up your carbs.
Wait until you hit 50.
I raced 37 times this year.
For a 1 mile race, I would do a mile jog followed by a warm up of 2-3 miles followed by a mile of quarter hard quarter easy in my racing flats.
For a 5k in the morning, I would do a 1 mile wake up jog. I would then run the course. Change into flats and do a few sprints.
For a 10k, I would do a 1 mile wake up jog followed by 2-2.5 miles warm up and sprints.
For a half marathon, I would do 1 mile wake up jog followed by 2 miles and some run-outs just to stay loose.
For a marathon, I did a half mile wake up jog followed by a half mile warm up followed by another half mile warmup.
I'm older than 50 and I AM a 60/100 type (I don't even do 200s). This is my warmup:
3X50m progressive faster strides
3 drop jumps from 20"-30"
Wait 20 minutes for potentiation
Race
That's it. There's a youtube video "Asafa Prepares for Sprinting", starring Asafa Powell when he was the world record holder, where it says the warmup lasts 20-25 minutes. No jogging.
I've been to meets where Baylor was competing and Clyde Hart was present, where the warmup was progressive faster strides up and down the field, 12 total, just like Hart says in his coaching seminars. One of the athletes was Wariner's old training partner, Darold Williamson, and all he did was 44-point on a non-mondo track.
Here is an article where Salazar says to do 4-6 150 meter strides (and not after 3 miles), and that's to warm up for sprints, not distance:
http://running.competitor.com/2012/08/training/five-lessons-learned-from-alberto-salazar_57069/5
Distance runners only need to get their legs warm, as cold legs produce more lactate, and they need to adjust muscle tension. Strides will do that, jogging 2-3 miles will not, and that's why you see professionals doing a bunch of strides for their warmup.
As usual, there's a bunch of people posting in this thread that don't know what the hell they're talking about.
coach d wrote:
As usual, there's a bunch of people posting in this thread that don't know what the hell they're talking about.
Good for you and all the people who don't have to warm up much.
I know from experience of both racing and workouts that if I don't warm up like I posted, my hip flexors will tighten up, I'll get tight hamstrings, or calf spasms. I've tried to cheat it with less warm up but it never worked out.
I've seen Ethiopians and Kenyans spend about an hour slowly jogging around before a 10,000. The race was real fast too.
Warm ups are pretty overrated. I used to do them but stopped and haven't noticed a difference.
Ironically If you don't warm up you use MORE carbs at the start of a race due to your system not being revved up enough and therefore much less efficient. You will put yourself in a hole early.
Warm up. The elites do it so it's safe to say it's worth doing
no strained hip flexors..... wrote:
Wait until you hit 50.
I raced 37 times this year.
For a 1 mile race, I would do a mile jog followed by a warm up of 2-3 miles followed by a mile of quarter hard quarter easy in my racing flats.
LOL what you mean to say is you "raced" 37 times. If you are racing every weekend from mile to marathon those are true race efforts in the real sense of the word. Congrats on your hard weekend workouts.
And that is the stupidest mile warmup I've ever heard of. You literally do 8k of actual running to prepare for a mile? 40 minutes to warm-up for a mile is not long. 40 minutes of running is dumb.
Let me educate you all:
http://running.competitor.com/2015/08/training/the-perfect-warmup-for-speed-workouts_132831I'm a masters runner who's raced the 800m for the last 10 years. I have to warm up starting about 45 minutes before the race, including some hard running, to race my best.
I'm amazed at how some runners can just stand around or static stretch before a race.
Most people at a race think you are insane for warming up ~45 minutes to 1 hour before the race start. They think you are even crazier for running FURTHER than the race distance in the warm up. Most people warm up for a race by standing in the line at the bathroom holding a cup of coffee and are overdressed by about 20 degrees. Maybe if they actually warmed up for the race they would realize wearing 3/4 length tights and a jacket is a bit much for a 55 degree race. Once again, it shows how this sport is full of a bunch of participators and not racers.
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