Will Ryan Hall Make the 2016 Olympic Marathon Team?

Ryan Hill is a 5k runner not a marathoner.

MAYBE in 2024 but not now.

AlbinoRunner wrote:

While I doubt Ryan Hall will finish top 3 at the Trials, I'll never under stand the venomous dislike people have for him. There are so many truly bad people in the sport (ie Alberto Salazaar) who have caused wide spread catastrophic damage and have hurt so many people along the way.

Well said. I agree completely that he does not deserve the disrespect shown on these boards. He's accomplished as a runner more than almost all of us could ever hope to, and he is a decent person as well. Show some respect, LRC.

BTW, I'm an atheist so don't discount this as another Bible-thumper defending him for religious reasons.

Look up when Hall last ran a PR in any event. Its quite sad, dude has been out of the game for awhile. Iaaf gives him a 2:06 from berlin in 2011 and a half marathon PR in 2007!!!

nope wrote:

Look up when Hall last ran a PR in any event. Its quite sad, dude has been out of the game for awhile. Iaaf gives him a 2:06 from berlin in 2011 and a half marathon PR in 2007!!!

2006 was actually London, My b

nope wrote:

nope wrote:

Look up when Hall last ran a PR in any event. Its quite sad, dude has been out of the game for awhile. Iaaf gives him a 2:06 from berlin in 2011 and a half marathon PR in 2007!!!

2006 was actually London, My b

im drunk,

2008 London 2:06

2007 Houston half-marathon 59:43

Science Dude wrote:

Low T is a chronic condition that is unfortunately brought on by long distance running. The only way to fix it would be to stop running for a prolonged period of time, or to take a testosterone supplement.

I had an epiphany today, "Isn't this kind of like Salaza? Salazar ended up pushing his body so much it was wrecked. After his career was over, Sal then thought, "it shouldn't be like that" "and has figured out a way now to get away from the tradeoffs that normally are the result of training at that level.

I highly doubt however that in the year 2030 we'll have WADA investigating a group of Hall coached athletes for PEDs. Let's hope not!!!

Like Weldon, I always assumed Hall would make the team. Whoever weldon talked to at the Running Event was persuasive as after talking to Weldon on our weekly conference call on Monday, the guys here all convinced me it is over for Hall.

I looked for results for hall in the rome, GA event but don't see anything.

nope wrote:

Look up when Hall last ran a PR in any event. Its quite sad, dude has been out of the game for awhile. Iaaf gives him a 2:06 from berlin in 2011 and a half marathon PR in 2007!!!

I'm a Hall fan so I'm likely biased. But I'm not sure if it is fair to say that this "quite sad". A performance like Houston 2007 is a 'once in a lifetime' race. And an AR that will stand until Rupp takes a legitimate shot at it. He never went for a fast half after then, he mostly used them as tune-ups and workouts. And London 2008 was an incredible performance, no doubt, but he also had 3 great Bostons culminating in the fastest marathon ever run by an American. Even his 2012 trials race was a fantastic performance to me, front running and ensuring an honest pace.

Right, Hall has very impressive PRs. He is one of the best american marathoners, but years later we still have these huge expectations of him winning the trials and what have you. The part that is sad is that he will not get back to that peak performance, despite every year people talking about what he is going to do. Can we just accept, that he is still good, not great anymore. A guys prime only lasts so long

AlbinoRunner wrote:

I'll never under stand the venomous dislike people have for him. There are so many truly bad people in the sport (ie Alberto Salazaar) who have caused wide spread catastrophic damage and have hurt so many people along the way.

I don't know... When I think of all the damage some people have caused, Salazar doesn't even make the first 50 million on my list. What was it that Salazar did again? I don't see him convicted of anything. He doesn't seemed to be banned for anything either. Other than a couple of fruit cake runners lobbing accusations at him with no proof, what did he do? (Besides that you don't like him or his personality much).

Anyway, maybe people don't like Ryan Hall's bible thumping so much. The way I see it, he most likely won't finish the race, and the lord would have wanted it that way. Hopefully the lord has a second option for Ryan Hall in terms of career choices.

It would be great to see him at the trials and run well, but with his medical issue that does not seem very likely. He really had a good string of marathons, something to be proud of. Father Time is undefeated, sooner or later an illness or injury derails everyone. Sad but true.

AZ wrote:

I'm a Hall fan so I'm likely biased. But I'm not sure if it is fair to say that this "quite sad". A performance like Houston 2007 is a 'once in a lifetime' race. And an AR that will stand until Rupp takes a legitimate shot at it. He never went for a fast half after then, he mostly used them as tune-ups and workouts. And London 2008 was an incredible performance, no doubt, but he also had 3 great Bostons culminating in the fastest marathon ever run by an American. Even his 2012 trials race was a fantastic performance to me, front running and ensuring an honest pace.

I don't know, I think it's a bummer. We keep waiting for another American to break 2:10 and the guy ran a legit 2:06 and a 2:04 wind-aided. That's a ton of talent. Basically he and Rupp would appear to be the only Americans capable of going sub-2:07. Only Ritz could possibly break 2:08. And Meb is the only other guy I trust to go sub-2:10 these days. Not a great line-up since I don't expect a marathon from Rupp or a peak performance from Hall or Ritz.

Science Dude wrote:

Low T is a chronic condition that is unfortunately brought on by long distance running. The only way to fix it would be to stop running for a prolonged period of time, or to take a testosterone supplement.

Low T is only chronic from running if you literally never rest. Otherwise, it's just a short-term defensive mechanism (body under immense physical stress, thinks it can't reproduce). I don't think Hall's current health issues can be attributed to chronic over training. At the end of the day, Low T is a blood flow issue - Hall should have no problems there (although all that Muscle Milk probably didn't help...)

Seventh son of a seventh son wrote:

AlbinoRunner wrote:

While I doubt Ryan Hall will finish top 3 at the Trials, I'll never under stand the venomous dislike people have for him. There are so many truly bad people in the sport (ie Alberto Salazaar) who have caused wide spread catastrophic damage and have hurt so many people along the way.

Well said. I agree completely that he does not deserve the disrespect shown on these boards. He's accomplished as a runner more than almost all of us could ever hope to, and he is a decent person as well. Show some respect, LRC.

BTW, I'm an atheist so don't discount this as another Bible-thumper defending him for religious reasons.

People like Hall. He gets HUGE enthusiasm after a good race- which wouldn't happen if he was hated. Hall is over the top with his religion & DNF's- which ppl don't like. That's different than not liking HIM.

he'll be fine. doc will juice him up with T and endocrinologist will get his hormones juiced up and it will all be "legal" and god's will will prevail.

any chance he runs the 10k at the track trials?

How long would it take for him to recover if he listened to the doctors and took the medication? He still has the miles in his legs... Would it be 3 months or more like 12?

rojo wrote:

Like Weldon, I always assumed Hall would make the team. Whoever weldon talked to at the Running Event was persuasive as after talking to Weldon on our weekly conference call on Monday, the guys here all convinced me it is over for Hall.

So this is very recent? I recall an interview he did in October where he talked about going to the trials and doing his best - something like you can never tell on race day - kind of thing. I thought he was doing all he could to up his T levels, weights, eating fats, etc? Do these guys know Ryan? Is he not training?

I know people like to bash him, mainly because they are disappointing with his performance lately, but, leave out Boston, the dude ran a 2:06 and a bit in London, that right there is a lifetime of respect.

Brojos: Do you have a presence at Footlocker? Hall's twitter indicates that he is there making a personal appearance. Maybe you should try to get an interview.