AUSTIN TAMAGNO will be upset by CASEY CLINGER

armored: you heard for yourself what Chris Derrick thought today because Chris was on the broadcast team for the NXN. First time I ever saw him do it and I thought he did ok. Very proud of what he has done in X-C in college, nationally, and internationally. He's a great one.

Starting w/ my H.S. soph year I decided to become a front runner like Pre. I routinely went out under 4:40 my whole senior year.... and my first mile at the 13:50.6 state meet 3-mile final victory (and 43 year old course record) was 4:25. I do not believe that record will be broken until someone goes out at least under 4:30. Jon Davis went out in 4:31 and ran 13:59.3. Right now, I believe that Andrew Hunter is capable of racing like that...and may do that at San Diego next Sat. He is a super talent. BTW, Andrew's father, Marc, was on my 1st two World X-C Teams with me and we just recently reconnected. Andrew gets his talent honestly from both parents.

jjjjj....I believe that it was Mark Nenow that was known for the hard ten milers with little to no structured workouts.

To the people saying milers like Tamango hate xc, didn't he finish like 6 at footlocker last year? It was an obvious bad day, not that he can't run xc

Thanks for the questions Montesque! But, this is a thread to celebrate the NXN victory by Casey Clinger and 696969's correct prediction of it. I have taken enough space on this thread already....start another one tonight and I will answer it and compare what I did back then to what is going on today. Many of these young guns aren't familiar with me anyway but they might find my H.S. career interesting. My hats off to Clinger and 696969 here!

bobinvirginia wrote:

jjjjj....I believe that it was Mark Nenow that was known for the hard ten milers with little to no structured workouts.

Thanks for answering that question for me, bobinvirginia. I believe you are right. My main career was from 1969-1992. I did hard 10 milers as part of my workout plan...but more like a steady state or tempo run. I think Nenow did do something unconventional like this... as well as doing some of his hard workouts at 10 PM after dark when he was training at Lexington, KY. Marc did own the US 10,000 m. record for many years until Meb broke it in 2004? He also held the US 10K road race record (point to point) which he set in 1984 down in Crescent City Classic 10K in New Orleans. I know because I was in the race behind him. That may still stand. I was self coached... but did do structured workout weeks. Now let's keep this thread on Casey Clinger and the great NXN race today. We can start another one at your pleasure and I would be glad to participate. I apologize for this distraction.

Thanks again Craig for post! Casey Clinger's coach is a good one. Casey ran few races this year and seemed to be putting it altogether at the right time. He has good instincts and good stride. Utah is proud of Casey, his coach and team. Congrats to Casey, he put in the work and is a thinker. Way to go Casey you shut my mouth up for good! Stay healthy!

6th over California hardpan, 22nd in Oregon slop. Throw in a hard early pace (didn't see the race so???) and that is all she wrote. I'm a (slow) miler myself, I feel the kid's pain. Heck, didn't he run 14:45 on hardpack just last week? He'll get revenge in the spring, that is the saving grace of the track guy.

details wrote:

To the people saying milers like Tamango hate xc, didn't he finish like 6 at footlocker last year? It was an obvious bad day, not that he can't run xc

...and 22 other guys

Just wanted to mention Casey Clinger is just as strong on the track. He is a drivin competitor and will be right there. Could be even more dangerous this year outdoor.

armored wrote:

Thanks again Craig for post! Casey Clinger's coach is a good one*. Casey ran few races this year and seemed to be putting it altogether at the right time. He has good instincts and good stride. Utah is proud of Casey, his coach and team. Congrats to Casey, he put in the work and is a thinker. Way to go Casey you shut my mouth up for good! Stay healthy!

*He was the USATF Masters 3000m Steeplechase National Champion in 2004

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Don't know why Tamagno ran so poorly at NXN. And why wasn't he at Footlocker? He went there when his team made NXN, then goes back to NXN when his team doesn't make it?!?

Anyway, Tamagno certainly is a world-class HS cross country runner. He set the Mt. Sac course record last year, running 14:23 on an extremely hilly and famous course.