The official HEPS track and field thread, 2015-2016

random SEC coach wrote:

I'm jealous. This makes me want to coach in the Ivy League. Lots of people who care about the sport and enjoy discussing it. Bravo. I'm looking forward to this meet!

Coach, I have honestly never encountered a college meet like the Heptagonal championships, and I coached at the college level for a quarter-century.

To go to an outdoor Heps at Yale, and see the stands absolutely packed; to go to an indoor Heps at Harvard--again, standing room only, and so loud you can't hear yourself think--is a pleasure for those who love The Sport, and a privilege.

And those involved DO care--it would be hard to overstate how much! Great rivalries without smack talk or animosity: reaffirms your believe in the educational value of college sport.

lease wrote:

random SEC coach wrote:

I'm jealous. This makes me want to coach in the Ivy League. Lots of people who care about the sport and enjoy discussing it. Bravo. I'm looking forward to this meet!

Coach, I have honestly never encountered a college meet like the Heptagonal championships, and I coached at the college level for a quarter-century.

To go to an outdoor Heps at Yale, and see the stands absolutely packed; to go to an indoor Heps at Harvard--again, standing room only, and so loud you can't hear yourself think--is a pleasure for those who love The Sport, and a privilege.

And those involved DO care--it would be hard to overstate how much! Great rivalries without smack talk or animosity: reaffirms your believe in the educational value of college sport.

Thanks for this. This means very much to someone like me. I have lots of dreams of moving up to the northeast. I've always enjoyed my time there. For future reference I'll keep all of this in mind.

ladedah wrote:

I heard a story of a Harvard runner in the 1980s who won the 3km out of the slow heat (was it Sheehan?) because he didn't have a seed time and just dominated it, and then the guys in the faster heat just looked at it other and realized it was going to be a battle for second place...

Anyone else ever heard of that story?

That was Bill Burke of Princeton in 1991 (and it was in the 5K).

Thanks Ivyguy. I actually got someone from the Ivy League to get it online and emailed me a copy which I used for the website at the following link:

Hepstrack.com/2016-indoor-schedule

I've added in links to the lancer timing results (and believe future heat sheets) to the schedule since they don't change the link addresses much between the years.

I wish I could make it up to Ithaca this year but schedule won't allow me (oh the life of doing this as a volunteer, lol). Anyone making the trek up?

Making the trip up to watch my daughter run...wishing her well

2 DAYS

http://www.thedp.com/article/2016/02/penn-track-field-heps-preview-2016

http://dailyprincetonian.com/sports/2016/02/womens-track-and-field-looks-to-carry-current-momentum-into-spring-competitions/

Columbia Lions Roar!!

http://www.gocolumbialions.com/ViewArticle.dbml?PRINTABLE_PAGE=YES&SPSID=48362&DB_LANG=C&SPID=4657&DB_OEM_ID=9600&ATCLID=210746590

Ivyguy wrote:

Columbia Lions Roar!!

Please note that the Ivyguy who posted the (quoted) encouragement to Columbia is not the same as the Ivyguy who started this thread--and who has now registered the handle, to avoid any confusion in future.

Looking for heat sheets

They will be out tomorrow

Heat sheets should be up after the coaches meet on Friday afternoon on LancerTiming.com (i'd check around 7pm or so, I'm not sure what time the meeting will be done)

http://lancertiming.com/

Check the right side of the screen.

All of the Hepstrack event previews are online. As a spoiler, I will be publishing the projected scores based on the TFRRS database later today with the top 10 performances in each event. Each gender will have a separate post.

Given all of the traveling I've had to do for work this week, I'm glad it's just all up now. Hopefully no one is having any issues accessing the posts.

Only one day to go!

C/M, I think everybody appreciates your work, even if we don't all say something. Thanks for all the info and forecasts!

Last minute guesses on distance event coverage?

I think Awad will go 3k/DMR-- Penn has made it clear they are not overusing him this year with trials on the horizon so I would not be surprised if he only runs those two events.

Between the mile/1000/800 I'm betting Gowans and Napolitano will not race each other, but I'm not sure how they will split. Gowans has yet to run a 1000 this year but he wouldn't need to given the prelims/finals system.

Would bet that Chapin will anchor Dartmouth's DMR as well so he will probably do the 3k/DMR double as well.

Princeton has 3 of the top 7 800 performances and as such will probably stack the 4x8 and abandon the DMR.

I don't follow the women's side as closely but from what little I do see I think event choices will be far more predictable.

I will not be running at HEPS this year due to an Anime trivia competition on Saturday... Sorry for the inconvenience

chaserofsteeples wrote:

Between the mile/1000/800 I'm betting Gowans and Napolitano will not race each other, but I'm not sure how they will split.

You can bet all you want, but meet entries are blind, so the coaches are going to make their event entries without reference to other teams' choices!

This does introduce an interesting question, though: do you have one of these guys double in individual events? I remember that Nick Wade did that a few years ago--but the middle-distance fields weren't quite so deep that year. Anyway, he ran the 1,000 and the mile and didn't win either (a pair of deuces), then came back and ran the fastest leg on his squad's winning 4x8.

Yeah, he was one tired pup after that, and he didn't score an individual point at Heps outdoors; on the other hand, his Cornell team won that indoor meet (by a point). Do you do the same thing with a Gowans or Napolitano this year?

Ivyguy wrote:

[quote]chaserofsteeples wrote:

This does introduce an interesting question, though: do you have one of these guys double in individual events? I remember that Nick Wade did that a few years ago--but the middle-distance fields weren't quite so deep that year. Anyway, he ran the 1,000 and the mile and didn't win either (a pair of deuces), then came back and ran the fastest leg on his squad's winning 4x8.

Yeah, he was one tired pup after that, and he didn't score an individual point at Heps outdoors; on the other hand, his Cornell team won that indoor meet (by a point). Do you do the same thing with a Gowans or Napolitano this year?

I think Wade won MVP that year for that iHeps. I think he shared it with Callahan of Princeton if memory serves me correctly.

I don't know if burning Napolitano out would help Columbia any more in the team standings as it would for Gowans. Princeton can still put a few studs in the long distance events to close the gap. Cornell doesn't have the throwing power they did before while Princeton has filled in those spots pretty well.

Previews

Grrrr...STILL no heat sheets online?

No, they are online. Go to the live results and click on the individual events.

http://lancertiming.com/results/winter16/IVYHEPS/index.htm

They've been up since last night.

I'm trying to compare the entries with the conference rankings but it is taking me more time than I previously thought it would take because of the additions to the long distance events (when this happened, I try for their season's best or PR during an indoor season). For example, 12 of the men in the top 20 are NOT running the mile, including Awad and Gowans. Awad will be in the 1st heat of the 3k and run anchor on the DMR. I don't like my 5km rankings because I don't think they are representative of the real fitness of the athletes right now (my heat sheet top 2 are now Dooney and Purnell, but I'd rather say the Dartmouth guys like King, Chapin, and Masterson are the best of the field - no Rainero in the 5km as he will only be in the 3k)

My men's projected scorings right now based on the seedings:

Ranking

Cornell 165

Princeton 130

Dartmouth 68

Harvard 68

Penn 68

Brown 60

Yale 41

Columbia 20

Other notes, defending 60m champ Malcolm Johnson is in the entries to defend his title. He hasn't competed yet this season, so we'll see how he can handle Princeton's Volker.

Time to try to finish the women up.