How many Oly wins? wrote:
Ethiopia and Great Britain won all of the 10K Olympic Golds in the past 15 years.
AKA Out of only 4 Olympics....
How many Oly wins? wrote:
Ethiopia and Great Britain won all of the 10K Olympic Golds in the past 15 years.
AKA Out of only 4 Olympics....
If you take out the 800m and the 1500m from those results, it then becomes pretty sad. Nobody considers the 800m a distance event and 1500m barely qualifies.
Also everyone knows Japan has no real interest in competing at anything shorter than the 5000m given limited atheltics participation in Japan and limited talent pool so those comparisons arent that helpful.
coach d wrote:
Japan is now one of the worst performing countries at IAAF championships. This will continue until/unless they get on the dope.
FIFY
Les wrote:
When was the last Japanese distance runner to medal in a track event? Has one EVER medaled in a track event?
Masako Chiba. 10000m bronze. 1997.
Bundang Social Club wrote:
10k on the track.
Was the winner lapped before he came back for the win?
You didn't run D1. No (former)D1 runner is as stupid as to believe the stuff you are typing.
Many people consider the 800m distance, hence the term mid-distance... They don't call the sprints "short-distance events", so therefore the 800 is still a distance event.
formerD1 wrote:
If you take out the 800m and the 1500m from those results, it then becomes pretty sad. Nobody considers the 800m a distance event and 1500m barely qualifies.
"If you ignore all those medals the USA won, the USA has barely won anything."
formerD1 wrote:
Also everyone knows Japan has no real interest in competing at anything shorter than the 5000m given limited atheltics participation in Japan and limited talent pool so those comparisons arent that helpful.
"Guys, it's really not helpful when you make all these comparisons that shows my narrative is mistaken. Please don't do that."
Hilarious. This guy is a comedian.
No, thats clearly not what I said. Guess nuance is lost on you.
Guess you didnt run at a D1 school? The good ones typically have 800m runners who were converted 400m runners. Basically black kids who ran 48-49 in HS converting up. They are not distance runners. For everyone Willis who does thr 800m and 1500m you have 20 of these kids who couldnt run 5k to save their lives.
Thats a fact and I doubt anyone else who ran D1 here will dispute this.
reader of the forums 2.0 wrote:
Hilarious. This guy is a comedian.
This clown is a name stealing troll. Ignore the idiot.
Has a Japanese ever been caught with steroids. Perhaps their lack of "great" 10k runners stems from a lack of EPO use. Japan is a very moral country that is very set on following the rules.
I bet if EPO was legal Japan would benefit the most from the legalization.
I think a Japanese team running at pre-nats would be pretty neat. Not sure whether the NCAA would allow this.
The 800m is tricky. In high school most 800m runners tend to be the kids who are good at the mile and cross country, but that doesn't mean they are the most suited for it. The sprinters in high school are generally too lazy to develop sufficient speed endurance to last the 800m distance.
At the college and above level, the 400m runners who may have been excellent at the junior or high school level find they lack the speed and strength to go any faster, so they add some mileage to their sprinting regime and convert to 800m runners. Likewise, many milers and traditional "distance runners" find that they lack the leg speed to be compete against these 400m runners who converted to the 800m, so they "move up" in distance to the 3000m steeple or 5K.
The Kenyans pick out "distance runners" at a very young age based on 200m speed, believe it or not. This is based on the view, which many subscribe to, that abundance of fast-twitch muscle fibers is something that cannot be sufficiently trained, whereas slow-twitch muscles can be. To be elite in the mid-distances (800m through 10K), you need both types and speed is the one that you just can't train if you don't have it.
For those who follow NCAA track and field, the below should be a very familiar sight. These guys rarely run on the XC team and spend most of their time training with the 400m runners and other sprinters on the team or in the weight room lifting weights - hardly the definition of a "distance" runner.
Hypothesis wrote:
Has a Japanese ever been caught with steroids. Perhaps their lack of "great" 10k runners stems from a lack of EPO use. Japan is a very moral country that is very set on following the rules.
I bet if EPO was legal Japan would benefit the most from the legalization.
Kaori Yoshida was suspended for 1 yr after testing positive at Honolulu marathon in 2012.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2013/05/24/more-sports/track-field/marathon-runner-yoshida-gets-one-year-doping-ban/#.S0luLUaYtVcreader of the forums wrote:
reader of the forums 2.0 wrote:Hilarious. This guy is a comedian.
This clown is a name stealing troll. Ignore the idiot.
The irony.
EPO/HGH helped the US win many distance medals since 2004. Japan is only concerned about Japanese fans so Japanese distance runners won't use PEDs and blood doping they way the USA has.
The USA has over 100 hits. Japan, zero listed.
The US doping cases include numerous Olympic medalists. Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin, etc. etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athletics
http://www.usada.org/testing/results/sanctions/
Seriously, what a joke.
reader of the forums 2.0 is an obvious troll so don't even bother.
Never has anything of actual value to add to the discussion, just trolls constantly.
shut up wrote:
reader of the forums 2.0 is an obvious troll so don't even bother.
Never has anything of actual value to add to the discussion, just trolls constantly.
"shut up" is a coward who can't even post under a consistent anonymous name when insulting someone.
He is probably the same guy who registered my previous handle, who has posted in this thread, and obsessively stalks me.
Marion McJones wrote:
The USA has over 100 hits. Japan, zero listed.
The US doping cases include numerous Olympic medalists. Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin, etc. etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athleticshttp://www.usada.org/testing/results/sanctions/Seriously, what a joke.
American sprinters dope?
gasp!