Hunter, Tamagno, Thomet to Oregon - best distance class ever?

Oregon does not under perform in XC. They get to NCAA Nationals 90% of the time and place top ten most years. They even had a string of a couple wins and a couple runner-up finishes consecutively a few years back.

They don't dominate in XC as they do in track because track is their main focus and as such they recruit lots of milers who end up in their top 7 in XC. A XC team with a bunch of milers on it usually doesn't do as well as a team of pure distance types i.e. Wisconsin, Colorado. So based on their success as it is at the National in XC meet I'd say they may be over performing based on their team make-up.

Well, Hunter and Thomet lean towards being true distance types, I believe, so that should improve Oregon's chances during XC. I think Hunter is going to thrive moving up to 8K and 10K XC.

Syracuse will have a great squad next year, like always. And Colorado will as well. Wetmore and Fox know how to get their teams ready for the late season in XC. Powell hasn't shown that he can so far.

Big Billy wrote:

Syracuse will have a great squad next year, like always. And Colorado will as well. Wetmore and Fox know how to get their teams ready for the late season in XC. Powell hasn't shown that he can so far.

How many times has Cuse finished in the podium, or very least, top-10 in the last decade?

Milling Miler wrote:

OK, smart a$$, who from the group of Clary, Boileau, Chapa, Martin, Bruce Nelson and Salazar were not from the same class?

1975 Clary

1976 Salazar Chapa, Boileau, Nelson

1978 Martin

For some odd reason, Hunter believes that he is a purely 5k guy...

cio2o2 wrote:

Hunter 4:02y/8:42y

Tamagno 4:06y/8:54/Mt. SAC record

Thomet 4:07y/8:54

University of Oregon Recruiting C/O 2004

GALEN RUPP

1,500m record (3:45.3), 3,000m (prep record 8:03.57) and 5,000m (U.S. junior record 13:37.91)

CHRIS WINTER

World Junior Championships

steeplechase prep best (8:54.94)

Canadian junior national champion in 1,500 meter steeplechase, 3,000 meters and 3,000 meter steeplechase.

JAMES WITHERS

800 meters (1:53.21) and 1,600 meters (4:10.7)

ROB GILLESPIE

Personal Bests:

400 meters - 49.12 (Prep)

800 meters - 1:53.51

Boise/Cal/UCLA on Nov 21, 2015 wrote:

cio2o2 wrote:

Hunter 4:02y/8:42y

Tamagno 4:06y/8:54/Mt. SAC record

Thomet 4:07y/8:54

University of Oregon Recruiting C/O 2004

http://www.goducks.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=4335&SPID=238&Q_SEASON=2005

GALEN RUPP

1,500m record (3:45.3), 3,000m (prep record 8:03.57) and 5,000m (U.S. junior record 13:37.91)

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=157184&DB_OEM_ID=500

CHRIS WINTER

World Junior Championships

steeplechase prep best (8:54.94)

Canadian junior national champion in 1,500 meter steeplechase, 3,000 meters and 3,000 meter steeplechase.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=85905&DB_OEM_ID=500

JAMES WITHERS

800 meters (1:53.21) and 1,600 meters (4:10.7)

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=85906&DB_OEM_ID=500

ROB GILLESPIE

Personal Bests:

400 meters - 49.12 (Prep)

800 meters - 1:53.51

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=157206&DB_OEM_ID=500

Ok, this class is better than that. What was your point?

seen it wrote:

ducks 2011 was better

verzbiscuits

gaydon

no L

elkaim

ja-blowski

and some others

University of Oregon Recruiting C/O 2011

Verzbicas, Lukas DIS 6-0 Fr. Orland Park, Ill.

High School Bests: Mile - 3:59.71, 2011; Two Miles - 8:29.46, 2011; 5,000 Meters - 14:06.78 (i), 2011.

Noelle, Chad DIS 6-0 Fr. Greene, N.Y.

High School Bests: 1,600 Meters - 4:10.54, 2010; Mile - 4:10.38, 2011; 3,200 Meters - 8:56.02, 2011;

Elkaim, Jeramy DIS 5-11 Fr. Livingston, N.J.

High School Bests: 1,600 Meters - 4:12.89, 2010; 3,200 Meters - 8:46.08, 2010; 5,000 Meters - 14:54.62, 2011.

Brewer, Chris DIS 5-9 Fr. Vista, Calif.

High School Bests: 800 Meters - 1:53.04, 2011; 1,600 Meters - 4:11.12, 2010; 3,200 Meters - 8:59.68, 2011.

Hornsby, Russell DIS 6-2 Fr. Williamsburg, Va.

High School Bests: 400 Meters - 48.84, 2011; 800 Meters - 1:50.82, 2011.

Jablonski, Matt DIS 5-8 Fr. Cockeysville, Md.

High School Bests: Mile - 4:10.37, 2011; 3,200 Meters - 8:50.80, 2011;

Melancon, Matthew DIS 6-0 Fr. Eugene, Ore.

High School Bests: 1,500 Meters - 4:01.53, 2011; 3,000 Meters - 8:30.78, 2011.

They are gonna be stacked next year. Possibly untouchable.

Elkaim ran 7:48 to win their conference champs in the 3k last indoor season. Seems pretty notable to me given that he destroyed the rest of the field by a couple seconds (including Parker Stinson). He's also run in the 13:30's before.

How few highs have been very high- sub4, that 3k win, a 13:38 in a dominating indoor win, etc.

But the majority of the time he's not making their XC team or getting absolutely mollywhopped when it counts. He's extremely talented (didnt his HS 8:46 happen within his first year of running?), but has not been able to put it together for the Ducks when they need him.

[quote]Milling Miler wrote:

Art Boileau, Rudy Chapa, Don Clary, Ken Martin, Bruce Nelson and Alberto Salazar. This group made up the Fall of 1979 Oregon team (along with Bill McChesney, Greg Erwin and Jeff Nelson).

Jim Hill and David Mack also came to Oregon in 1979

Will Hunter, Tamagno and Thomet redshirt next season?

ches and the princes wrote:

Will Hunter, Tamagno and Thomet redshirt next season?

Did Anderson and Maton? If they get injured, or are clearly running terribly, than sure. But it doesn't seem like Oregon automatically redshirts their top frosh. I'm not convinced Tamagno or Thomet will be all that good at the 8k or 10k, but I have east coast bias from watching Hunter.

Confused... wrote:

For some odd reason, Hunter believes that he is a purely 5k guy...

His parents coached Alan Webb, who was a 49/1:47 guy in HS. THAT[/], my friend, is MILER speed.

Hunter ran 1:52 last year, but on the NCAA level, that kind of speed doesn't cut it for milers.

Hunter's sweet spot seems very similar to Rupp's. I believe he could eventually go 3:32-3:33 in the 1500m, which nowadays means you are a 5000m contender rather than a 1500m runner.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Confused... wrote:

For some odd reason, Hunter believes that he is a purely 5k guy...

His parents coached Alan Webb, who was a 49/1:47 guy in HS. THAT, my friend, is MILER speed.

Hunter ran 1:52 last year, but on the NCAA level, that kind of speed doesn't cut it for milers.

Hunter's sweet spot seems very similar to Rupp's. I believe he could eventually go 3:32-3:33 in the 1500m, which nowadays means you are a 5000m contender rather than a 1500m runner.

Keep in mind that Hunter ran that 1:52 after he'd already run a 4:03 that day, and it's likely he could go a bit faster. But agreed, he'd probably end up being coming a 5k guy. Let's not say he could eventually run 3:32 just yet. Give the kid time to grow without unrealistic expectations. People said Saarel would be the next American sub-13 after his senior year in high school, and by his junior year, he's "only" run 13:49 and is a three-time All-American. That's not failure, but to people who said he'd be sub-13 it is.

Thomet already graduated and is taking a gap year now and think he was born in the fall. So if he redshirted he'd be almost 21 as a freshman.

Just for clarification, I was just speculating a ceiling for Hunter at the 1500m, not trying to say that he will run 3:32.