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    Clerk

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:12am EST

    Editor's note:

    There is a live video stream of the

    WADA press conference here

    Follow the live blog here:

    http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1031541/publication-of-the-world-anti-doping-agency-independent-commission-report

    06:09

    12 minutes ago

    BREAKING: WADA Report recommends the All Russian Athletics Federation be banned by the IAAF, casting into doubt their chances of competing at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games.

    06:03

    18 minutes ago

    BREAKING: WADA Report accuses Russian secret police of "direct intimidation and interference" in promoting systemic doping

    06:14

    7 minutes ago

    The report reveals that they Rodchenko twice during their investigations and he admitted to intentionally destroying 1,417 samples in order to limit the extent of WADA's audit and reduce any potentia adverse findings from subsequent analysis by another WADA-accredited laboratory.

    "The intentional destruction of the 1,417 samples done with the purpose of obstructing WADA's ability to conduct follow-up analysis on the samples was corroborated by another staff member who heard similar admissions directly from Dir. Rodchenkov," the report says.

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    Clerk

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:14am EST
    re: Clerk

    Summary of what to expect, posted yesterday:

    Clerk wrote:

    The report was finalized before the Russian Article.

    I haven't found any follow up on that article, and don't expect much.

    I do expect Farah believers to see tomorrows report, and claim that it exonerates Farah, neglecting the fact that the WADA report and Russian Article are not related, or focused on the same thing.

    The report due tomorrow is the WADA response to Seppelt's information. It is also not connected to the French Police investigation of corruption in IAAF. Although it could very well give insight into corruption evidence found by WADA, but don't assume that WADA and the French Police are taking the same angle.

    Clerk wrote:

    Just to review, as far as we can tell, the WADA report is based on Seppelt's (and his team's) information. Any extra info dug up stems from that.

    Assuming the biggest issues were in the broadcast, then the information includes facts about Russian doping, corruption and complacency, Kenyan athletes, doctors and training camps, as well as the Kenyan federation's own bribery operation.

    It is likely that the investigation into Russian corruption will lead to bigger revelations, but unlikely that it will following the Russian money trail will lead to any other federation or nations' athletes.

    The French Police are the ones to find Russians' bribes, the extortion or the Turkish athlete, and everything else in the last few days.

    Just because it is not in tomorrows report doesn't mean it didn't happen.

    Many are already saying that Bolt/Farah/Rupp/etc. is clean in this. While they may not be brought up in this, that, or other report, none of these are evidence of the negative, and shouldn't be used to say "See, _____ is clean!"

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    The Scot

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:18am EST
    re: Clerk

    Press conference is live on BBC and Sky News (inc. online) now.

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    agip

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:18am EST
    re: Clerk

    WADA is telling IAAF that Russia should be banned.

    doubtful that would happen

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    Clerk

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:19am EST
    re: Clerk

    06:19

    8 minutes ago

    Besides recommending that the IAAF suspends Russia, it also recommends that WADA withdraw its accreditation of the Moscow laboratory "as soon as possible" and that Rodchenkov be permanently removed from his position." The Moscow laboratory is unable to act independently," the WADA report concludes.

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    The Scot

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:20am EST
    re: agip

    agip wrote:

    WADA is telling IAAF that Russia should be banned.

    doubtful that would happen

    Coe must have been hoping they wouldn't go that far, now he will look soft if he doesn't follow up on that.

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    agip

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:20am EST
    re: Clerk

    Clerk wrote:

    06:19

    8 minutes ago

    Besides recommending that the IAAF suspends Russia, it also recommends that WADA withdraw its accreditation of the Moscow laboratory "as soon as possible" and that Rodchenkov be permanently removed from his position." The Moscow laboratory is unable to act independently," the WADA report concludes.

    I'm sure that will happen, but banning a major nation? Not likely.

    They just said the journalism is true.

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    Clerk

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:20am EST
    re: Clerk

    Clerk wrote:

    Summary of what to expect, posted yesterday:

    Clerk wrote:

    The report was finalized before the Russian Article.

    I haven't found any follow up on that article, and don't expect much.

    I do expect Farah believers to see tomorrows report, and claim that it exonerates Farah, neglecting the fact that the WADA report and Russian Article are not related, or focused on the same thing.

    The report due tomorrow is the WADA response to Seppelt's information. It is also not connected to the French Police investigation of corruption in IAAF. Although it could very well give insight into corruption evidence found by WADA, but don't assume that WADA and the French Police are taking the same angle.

    Clerk wrote:

    Just to review, as far as we can tell, the WADA report is based on Seppelt's (and his team's) information. Any extra info dug up stems from that.

    Assuming the biggest issues were in the broadcast, then the information includes facts about Russian doping, corruption and complacency, Kenyan athletes, doctors and training camps, as well as the Kenyan federation's own bribery operation.

    It is likely that the investigation into Russian corruption will lead to bigger revelations, but unlikely that it will following the Russian money trail will lead to any other federation or nations' athletes.

    The French Police are the ones to find Russians' bribes, the extortion or the Turkish athlete, and everything else in the last few days.

    Just because it is not in tomorrows report doesn't mean it didn't happen.

    Many are already saying that Bolt/Farah/Rupp/etc. is clean in this. While they may not be brought up in this, that, or other report, none of these are evidence of the negative, and shouldn't be used to say "See, _____ is clean!"

    Looking at the report, it is only focused on Russia. No mention of Kenya, Kenyan athletes, or federation in the contents.

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    Clerk

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:23am EST
    re: Clerk

    Race Radio ‏@TheRaceRadio 9m9 minutes ago

    .@Velorooms Pound says the portion that focuses on the criminal investigation will be released before the end of the year.

    Race Radio ‏@TheRaceRadio 12m12 minutes ago

    The IC has withheld most of the contents of the chapter on the IAAF in order to not

    compromise the continuing criminal investigation

  • cio2o2

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:26am EST
    re: Clerk

    would national ban for Russia only be for worlds/olympics or all meets?

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    agip

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:28am EST
    re: cio2o2

    Russia had a secret, government sponsored shadow lab

    (people accuse Nike of having one of these)

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    agip

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:29am EST
    re: agip

    the panel hopes russia will voluntarily skip Rio.

    hah.

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    Clerk

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:30am EST
    re: Clerk

    Clerk wrote:

    Clerk wrote:

    Summary of what to expect, posted yesterday:

    [quote]...

    Looking at the report, it is only focused on Russia. No mention of Kenya, Kenyan athletes, or federation in the contents.

    "During the Press Conference, the Independent Commission’s Chair, Mr. Richard Pound, will present the Commission’s findings and recommendations surrounding allegations of doping in sport, as first raised during ARD’s December 2014 documentary titled ‘Top secret doping – how Russia makes its winners?’. It should be noted that, shortly after the press conference, WADA will issue a Media Release in response to the Reports’ findings and recommendations."

    Focus is only on Russia

  • Factual Evidence

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:31am EST
    re: agip

    They don't accuse Nike of having one. They DO have one.

    agip wrote:

    Russia had a secret, government sponsored shadow lab

    (people accuse Nike of having one of these)

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    Soprano

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:32am EST
    re: Clerk

    Was about to start a thread like this.

    Good live blog here too with video of the press conference:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2015/nov/09/athletics-in-crisis-wada-publishes-report-into-doping-claims-live

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    agip

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:33am EST
    re: Factual Evidence

    they called this officially "state sponsored doping"

    strong words

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    Clerk

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:34am EST
    re: Clerk

    Clerk wrote:

    Clerk wrote:

    Looking at the report, it is only focused on Russia. No mention of Kenya, Kenyan athletes, or federation in the contents.

    "During the Press Conference, the Independent Commission’s Chair, Mr. Richard Pound, will present the Commission’s findings and recommendations surrounding allegations of doping in sport, as first raised during ARD’s December 2014 documentary titled ‘Top secret doping – how Russia makes its winners?’. It should be noted that, shortly after the press conference, WADA will issue a Media Release in response to the Reports’ findings and recommendations."

    Focus is only on Russia

    Race Radio ‏@TheRaceRadio 10m10 minutes ago

    IC report says "Russia is not the only country, nor athletics the only sport, facing problem of orchestrated doping in sport" Kenya is next

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    Clerk

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:35am EST
    re: Clerk

    While Russia is implicated for destroying 1,400 samples, don't forget that Spain did the same thing with the blood bags obtained in Operation Puerto

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    agip

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:36am EST
    re: Clerk

    good point made - Sochi testing was most likely fixed

    Rusia won the most medals by far - 33 vs 28 for the US

  • claro

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    8 years ago 11/09/2015 8:37am EST
    re: Clerk

    Clerk wrote:

    Race Radio ‏@TheRaceRadio 10m10 minutes ago

    IC report says "Russia is not the only country, nor athletics the only sport, facing problem of orchestrated doping in sport" Kenya is next

    "Kenya is next" is your editorializing, or in IC report?

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