BIG EAST Course?!

Jealous haters abound. Course was long with a major hill. Big East is CRIMINALLY underrated, these dudes are legiiiit.

Wait....isn't this cross country?? Doesn't everybody in the race run the same distance? I see people on here blaming a coach for telling his athletes it "was a full 8k". Who cares? Know the course, step on the line, when the gun goes off run really hard and fast....let's see who wins.

The Big East is among the most poorly administered conferences in D1 athletics. No question there. No way the course was 8k or 6k (by the same rationale). Every single conference had reported to TFRRS by the time BE did so on Saturday. Seems strange, no? Not suggesting conspiracy, just more evidence that people didn't know what to do with the situation of a course that was so far off. It really doesn't matter at the end of the day - competing is competing and the chips fell the way they did regardless of distance. Good competition at the top, as always.

measure it on google earth, it's eerily accurate.

Wasn't this meet at the same course that DIII pre-nats was on last year? Kings Island I think. It was extremely short for both races especially the 8K. DIII guys were running nearly that fast there last year. They changed it up some for NCAA's but I thin it was still short.

Did anyone figure out actual distance? Why keep records without verification?

This was a huge misconception by everyone:

1. The course is very momentum based, each athlete gets to recover reciprocal muscle groups up and down hill constantly. These courses are faster than flat courses.

2. Tiernan ran 23:50 alone 2 years ago at BE champs on a much harder course completely alone. He dropped Green and Petersen hard after 5000m. Those guys are no joke.

3. 23:00 should not be whoa impossible to break for these guys now. It's about time. The sit and kick races are leading to low/mid 23's. We could see sub 22 on that course in the future based on how momentum based it is.

Friend in the race, ran with a Garmin, said 4.962. Measured it on Google Earth and it is about that.

I was there with a measuring wheel. Am I going to save the day, here?

It was 27 feet short following the line. It was 82 feet short cutting tangents perfectly. That's feet, not meters.

The 3k split was not even available. don't know what the 8:05 was. There was a timing mat at 3150. There were just under 9 at the 2 mile mark.

First 1000m was dead on accurate on the white line. We measured it backwards to the start.

Women went out in 3:04

Men's at 800m were through in 2:11/12, which we measured.

Funny part is women's course was long on the white line 53 feet.

Wheel wrote:

Am I going to save the day, here?

You did.

Wheel wrote:

It was 27 feet short following the line. It was 82 feet short cutting tangents perfectly. That's feet, not meters.

82 feet short works out to about 4 seconds at roughly 4:25 pace. 22:23 works out to 4:30 avg. I don't think that should be super alarming, especially since the same time over 7.6 to 7.7k gives a 4:44 to 4:40 average respectively.

9./10...good effort

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So, how many big east kids made nationals? Do conference meet times reflect regionals times?

is he as good as his conference meet record that'll likely last forever?