Is there currently or has there ever been a male who was faster than all of the women's world records from 100m to Marathon? Don't include hurdles or steeple. First one to come to mind was Webb. Could he have run under 10.49 100m at any point? What about a 21ish 200m? What about Coe or Rudisha? I kind of lean towards 800 guys as possible having the best potential range. Thoughts?
I don't think it could happen in the modern era. The genetics and training that would give somebody the ability to run 2:15 would also make it very difficult for them to run 10.49.
It likely happened back when they were not properly trained and therefore records were soft. Wiki lists the Womens 100m world record as 13.6 in 1922 and Marathon as 5:40 in 1918. Paavo Nurmi ran 4:10 mile in 1923. I think a 4:10 miler would easily have 13.6 and 5:40 range.
If you where to do this from the Marathon backwards,it would probably include some Male runners who had the range during their careers,until you get down to probably 400,200 and 100.
I can think of several who would have run the times sometime during their career ,struggling to think of someone who would have run the 400,200 and 100 times !
The modern woman is like a leopard.
Sleek, furry and really fast.
Jim Thorpe
Steve Ovett could have done them all if he had attacked them at appropriate times in his career.
I could see guys like Rudisha or Coe having the ability to do it, but certainly not all at the same time. The only way they'd have a chance is if they spent a season or two training for sprints, then a season or two training for MD, then maybe a couple years to get their aerobic base up and train specifically for the marathon.
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OP here.. Yeah, I could have been a little more clear, in their career is what I meant. Also, I was refering to any male ever and the current female world records. I think Aouita could have trained to do it. He certianly could run under 2:17 in the marathon. He could obviously run under 47 for 400m. But, I am not sure about the 100/200. Again, I think Webb had the potential to run faster than 10.4, and absolutely had the ability to run under 2:17. Coe had fantastic leg speed. What about Ovett and Cram? I don't think Hicham had the ability to run that fast of a 100/200, though.
Good question. I was prepared to say Webb before I clicked on the thread and I think he is one of maybe 5 guys who had potential to do it: Auoita, Ovett, maybe El G...
Farah? I think he could cover 400-marathon. Give him a rolling start, he could get the 200m too.
What about Kiprop? He's faster than Farah at 800.
I think there's actually a lot of guys who could do this, as long as they don't have to do all the times at once.
Rupp and Farah have 800-Marathon covered, train them for one season at block starts, more focused sprint training, and they get 100-400.
Webb could have done it, and would you honestly bet against Coe being able to break 2:15 in the marathon if he trained for it?
bigtool05 wrote:
I could see guys like Rudisha or Coe having the ability to do it, but certainly not all at the same time. The only way they'd have a chance is if they spent a season or two training for sprints, then a season or two training for MD, then maybe a couple years to get their aerobic base up and train specifically for the marathon.
Coe? No
Rudisha? Double no
Neither of these guys could come close to a competitive marathon time.
pin racer wrote:
I think there's actually a lot of guys who could do this, as long as they don't have to do all the times at once.
Rupp and Farah have 800-Marathon covered, train them for one season at block starts, more focused sprint training, and they get 100-400.
Webb could have done it, and would you honestly bet against Coe being able to break 2:15 in the marathon if he trained for it?
You folks vastly overestimate the spring speed of folks like Rupp and Farah. Not a chance in hell that they could match the women's 100m record.
"sprint speed"
Sorry for typo
There is a big difference between 11 flat and 10.49 in a 100 - the chances become a lot better if you disallow the 10.49, and consider the legit record to be 10.61.
I would guess the male runner who could go under 2:15:xx and also under 10.5 would likely be under 46 in the 400. I would guess their mile time would be around 3:55, and their 5000 around 13:50. This is assuming they aim for the times in the same season, which would probably be a little off their PR potential.
On the other hand, I knew a guy who ran 11.2 FAT in high school, ran a decent marathon (2:30's) - and could not run a decent mile or 5000 time. So sometimes people can manage both extremes better than they can manage the middle distances.
Ovett easily for 200 to marathon. Maybe the 100 if he trained for it.
I think everyone is underestimating how fast 10.49 is. That would be about top ten in any major D1 conference. I don't think Webb, or any other miler, could make finals in the Big 12 or SEC regardless of training.
no way farah gets anywhere close to the 100 or 200. could he run 47.60 probably.
ovett was basically a sprinter that hammered mileage to become a miler. he has 1 200m time registered on power of 10 @ 21.7. i think he could have got the 100 and 200 and has a mark of 47.5 for 400. he could have done the longer ones too.
coe as well has a 400 of 46.8 so probably could have run the 100 and 200 and with more mileage could have taken the others down as well.
Yeah, we already have a baseline 100m time for Farah, which is 12.98:
Maybe with a certain amount of sprint-specific training he could get it down under 12 seconds, but I don't see 10.49 as a realistic goal.