Mary Cain refused to talk to us but she did talk to Chris Lotsbom

Who is Mary Cain?

YAWN!!!! Who is "from a distant shore"? I know, someone who never ran 800m, 1500m or 5k faster than Mary Cain.

joho wrote:

No they did not. That is just you projecting your anti brojo sentiments into the thread. I did not get that Mary is a doper after reading the article and this thread.

No doubt that PED is a hot topic in the world of T&F so you would expect the subject to be talked about on both the main page and the boards. Pretending it doesn't exist will help no one (except maybe the cheaters).

You really have to have your head in the sand to say that. LRC is witch-hunt headquarters, and the fact the Brojos let that continue is evidence enough. Unless you're a fawning fanboy it's pretty hard to look at any "lack of comment" statement as anything other than an indictment of guilt, since if it wasn't there'd be no reason to make note of it.

PED is a hot topic, and I'd surely like to root it out also, but the LRC model of proclaiming everyone guilty and letting the rumor mill sort it out is the wrong way of going about it. If every "hard question" is either "how guilty are you?" or "who can you rat on?" it's not a true window into the issue. It's surely not going to get any athlete without a vendetta to open up, meaning the end result is either unbelievable or avoidance.

LRC doesn't "talk about" drug use it publishes string of accusations with the hope one of them will stick. There's a big difference, and if your goal is to eliminate PED use instead of generate click-bait there would be a more thorough and reasoned approach.

Rumors and "who's on drugs" surveys aren't part of responsible journalism. If anything I believe it encourages PED usage since it sends the message that everyone is on drugs and getting away with it, and if you're not you're one good day away from being accused. With that atmosphere why not take PEDs?

Umm, Keith, since you hate this site so much why do you post here? I know why--it's psychological--, but do you?

No Cell-stuck Steve wrote:

Steve, worried athletes already have Ken Goe they can speak with who will write up the fluff pieces you so desire to read. You can follow Ken here.

https://twitter.com/KenGoe

Set you home page to this:

http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/

I don't need fluff pieces. We also don't need the approach of the Brojos and the crap permitted on this site.

Keith is Stoned wrote:

Umm, Keith, since you hate this site so much why do you post here? I know why--it's psychological--, but do you?

Keith Stone the poster has been around LetsRun and predecessors such as T&Fmedia, RunGroteScheif and the track and field newsgroup and he may have been a Mervite as well. Most of the time I've thought him pretty much a boob however, in this case, he's right.

You guys....oops...I mean....the Brojos have no idea how to best handle the issue of PEDs in sports. You've chosen the attempt at a "gotcha" style of TMZ and when that style costs you, potentially, an interview you whine.

There are many ways of handling a negative situation...in this case the PED issue...which are more mature and professional than what Keith Stone outlines. You just don't like the end result biting you in the butt.

Own it.

No, Steve, Keith and You, are both wrong.

Keith is Stoned wrote:

Umm, Keith, since you hate this site so much why do you post here? I know why--it's psychological--, but do you?

Misery loves company and Keith is a miserable person. I have never seen him write one positive post about anything. He only comes here to trash people, often the very people that started this board.

I just don't understand the people that hate LR and the brojos but continue to visit the site just to say how horrible it is. Pretty pathetic.

You are still wrong, Steve, and Keith. You hate this type of thread but insist on posting to it because you "have" to. Own it, fools. You are the ones who needs to leave because your feelings are so easily hurt.

Crimson Panther wrote:

I disagree with all the fault-finders. Sure, LR.com is imperfect, and maybe Rojo and Wejo don't do every single thing exactly the way I'd like, but then, who does? A lot of the people complaining seem to want the status quo of US athlete/celebrity TV, where athletes are treated like a higher class of people, and must be fed softball questions that lead to them talking about hard work, inspiration, etc. Like, maybe, "Hey, Mary, how awesomely is your training going? Was training with AlSal totally awesome, and then you decided to move back east because it was equally awesome, and, like, are you getting in awesome workouts and stuff?"

That crap is boring.

Yeah, that would be stupid, to actually talk about running for a change.

Running a doping ring is what it is about. You laps-around-the-track boys have no life save for lap-running and timing yourself to the hundredth of second, logging it, and analyzing your log over, and over, and over again.

Keith is Stoned wrote:

You are still wrong, Steve, and Keith. You hate this type of thread but insist on posting to it because you "have" to. Own it, fools. You are the ones who needs to leave because your feelings are so easily hurt.

What makes you think I hate this type of thread?

go away wrote:

Misery loves company and Keith is a miserable person. I have never seen him write one positive post about anything. He only comes here to trash people, often the very people that started this board.

I just don't understand the people that hate LR and the brojos but continue to visit the site just to say how horrible it is. Pretty pathetic.

You call people miserable, who don't like the LR site being so miserable.

You love to hate this type thread. It's you method of releasing your inner tensions: by complaining about what you dislike.

PS. No one is changing their opinions or way of doing things because of your complaining.

PSS. No one is expecting you to change you opinions or way of doing things.

PSSS. Do you get it?

The irony indeed wrote:

go away wrote:

Misery loves company and Keith is a miserable person. I have never seen him write one positive post about anything. He only comes here to trash people, often the very people that started this board.

I just don't understand the people that hate LR and the brojos but continue to visit the site just to say how horrible it is. Pretty pathetic.

You call people miserable, who don't like the LR site being so miserable.

Misery loves company. That is why people like Keith and Steve cannot resist posting to threads about topics they claim to dislike so much.

Monkeys talking wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.1.1 wrote:

Again, what happens if the Brosjos decide to join your cult of "professional journalism?"

This might be crazy talk, but perhaps they'd actually get an interview to write up.

Mary! What kind of conditioner are you using? What kind of socks do you train in? Did you know blah blah blah said "XYZ?"

Yes, hard hitting stuff.... you will find at USATFs favored media partners, coincidentally running Nike adverts. Or, TMZ....

I like letsrun. I think it has done a great deal for the sport. But the site is hugely biased to me against anyone remotely associated with Rupp or Salazar or Centro since 2005. If I were Mary Cain, I wouldn't grant an interview. If I were Rupp, I would get a restraining order.

And yes, I can still enjoy the site.

Keith is Stoned wrote:

You love to hate this type thread. It's you method of releasing your inner tensions: by complaining about what you dislike.

PS. No one is changing their opinions or way of doing things because of your complaining.

PSS. No one is expecting you to change you opinions or way of doing things.

PSSS. Do you get it?

Who's complaining. The head writer of the place put up a thread lamenting Mary Cain not giving an interview to the place. Then he doesn't like hearing why.

That's on the board runners.

It was a matter of time before you posted again. Couldn't help yourself.