What percentage of D-1 XC runners are doping???

100% of the top 100 D-1 runners are doping if you are including test shots, androgel and clomid - they call it "micro-dosing" and it is not against the rules.

The percentage of top D-1 runners who are illegally doping would probably be 40%

beach please wrote:

100% of the top 100 D-1 runners are doping if you are including test shots, androgel and clomid - they call it "micro-dosing" and it is not against the rules.

The percentage of top D-1 runners who are illegally doping would probably be 40%

I find this hard to believe. Is this just speculation or have you actually seen this go on.

I highly doubt those numbers. If I were to guess it'd be 5-10% within the top 100 and roughly 5% of all D1 runners.

25% of top 100

5% of all

How about we get someone from a D-1 program to discuss it?

Versus sour grape folks just assuming that someone superior to us in running is on the sauce...

Heard from a friend at a D1 school that pretty much his entire team was on beta-alanine. Technically not illegal, but to me that's a big grey area supplement to be using.

beach please wrote:

100% of the top 100 D-1 runners are doping if you are including test shots, androgel and clomid - they call it "micro-dosing" and it is not against the rules.

The percentage of top D-1 runners who are illegally doping would probably be 40%

I hope you're a troll and don't truly believe this. I have known and run with multiple top-100 NCAA xc runners who were certainly not "micro-dosing" (which would still be illegal by the way) or using anything beyond regular supplements. The 100th best NCAA runner isn't even that good, for crying out loud-probably not even sub-14 for 5k. Do you really believe that every 14-flat 5k runner is doping?

I TRULY APOLOGIZE!!!!!!

I didn't see the "xc" in the title". Well, I guess I did since I clicked on it - whatever. I was referring to track not xc. I do not believe the xc kids are really doping that much. Sorry for posting that

beach please wrote:

I TRULY APOLOGIZE!!!!!!

I didn't see the "xc" in the title". Well, I guess I did since I clicked on it - whatever. I was referring to track not xc. I do not believe the xc kids are really doping that much. Sorry for posting that

Lol. Everyone, or nearly everyone, that runs XC runs track. So you're still talking about the same runners.

Graduated in the last 10 years, top 100 in cross and finalist in track. In my experience, approximately 0%. I don't even know what beta alanine is, only the vaguest idea what testosterone or estrogen blockers entail or how would would go about trying to get them. It's just not a world that I or my teammates ever considered entering, nor did we even have suspicions about our competitors. (Most college kids, if they wanted improvement that bad, could just skip the party on friday night, sleep a little more, and run some more doubles.)

Maybe I am being naive. But on my team we never had any serious suspicions of anyone and I have no reason to now, looking back. Maybe the situation is different at the very top or on the west coast where I don't have experience or know people. But again, I doubt it.

That's just an amino acid, found in a ton of dairy and meats. It's effective but no different than taking a vitamin supplement or iron.

Probably an extremely small percentage. There are a hell of a lot of people on here who ran D1, and many on here who actually were top 100 XC runners for any given year. Personally I was far from top 100, but I did run D1, and knew several guys who were top 100 XC runners, and I never saw the remotest hint of doping at any point. Nobody suggested that we dope, nobody offered me PEDs, there were no rumors circulating that so and so was doping, suspicious packages or needles or what have you. Nothing. At all.

Knowing several very good (say top 50 to top 200) D1 XC guys, I'd say close to 0% are doping. At my school, drug testing is short notice and random. If you miss your test, you're rendered ineligible.

I can guarantee you, they're not using Androgel, microdosing, etc.

Also, thinking logically, there's no $ in it, except for maybe less than 3 guys in the whole country. I think that you have to be pretty bent to dope just for bragging rights.

Some of these answers are hilarious. As someone who was on a good D1 team I doubt its very high. I really don't think its above 5% of the top 100.

Now if you want to get into people doing sketchy stuff in the gray area that isn't technically illegal I'd say 10-15%. Doping in the college ranks is far less prominent than the post collegiate.

Need Straight from Source wrote:

How about we get someone from a D-1 program to discuss it?

Versus sour grape folks just assuming that someone superior to us in running is on the sauce...

I'm the 3rd-4th runner on a top 20 D1 team. I can't speak for any other team but I am 100% certain nobody on my team is doping and nobody on a few of our rivals are. I just really can't see anyone going through the effort to go past the random drug tests for an incremental improvement. Drug tests are fairly frequent and very strict about timing and such.

Probably not all that common in the college ranks. Maybe in the 3-10% range. Likely more like 3-5%.

From the sounds of it microdosing with testosterone or EPO isn't that difficult, the drugs are not all that hard to obtain, and of course when you are talking scholarships potentially worth $30 - $50K a year (not to mention professional contracts once they are done) the incentive is there for some.

I'd say 17% are doing marijuana

Here is a better question to ask now.

What percent use PED in the summer when their at home and not getting drug tested?

What about the track kids too?

as someone who used to run D1 xc on a pretty decent team, I'd say it's pretty unlikely that a lot of guys are doping.

there's always that one guy on a team who dabbles with some grey area supplements and we had one of those guys for sure, but that's an outlier from the norm.

but there was a lot of pressure to take iron, recovery powder, and vitamin supplements.