MAGNESS'S NCAA team < Woodlands High school team

I get that he knows a lot of science behind running and he coaches some big name elites (Sara hall) but I too don't understand why he is considered so great. Just because he worked with NOP? Because he wrote a book?

He also coaches Neely Gracey who has been running very well under him since she left Hanson's last winter.

With it being UH and having a sprint dominated program with coaches like Leroy Burrell and Carl Lewis does he get any money to spend on distance? Agree that the program isn't all that great compared to the hype he has within the distance community though. I just find it hard to fathom Magness has much support scholarship wise to actually recruit talent that can compete well at the NCAA D1 level when they are bringing in top sprint recruits on full rides. If he doesn't get much scholarship support than why doesn't he apply for a head coaching job where he can focus a team solely on distance?

You just named four fairly significant qualifications there.

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Does Woodlands have three sub-1:52 guys? Does it have a sub-14 guy?

Check out the results of pre-nats. Houston men got 41st out of 42 in the fast mens race. The women got 31 out of 35 in one of the slow races.

seems like he's doing a great job to me........oh wait that's terrible.

I believe that most of the upperclass weren't his recruits and he is getting a lot out of them. Further, running your kids to death via an insane program in HS(Woodlands) isn't success. Let's see what they do post-HS. Finally, Magness's #1 is a stud and a sign of things to come.

Bak That wrote:

If he doesn't get much scholarship support than why doesn't he apply for a head coaching job where he can focus a team solely on distance?

Just maybe he likes where he is right now.

LOL ... yet another NOP / AlSal rabid fanboy expresses his sub 90 IQ. Yes, we all know saying negative things about Saint Alberto is worthy of destroying a person. Who knew saints elicited such mean behavior?

perhaps wrote:

Check out the results of pre-nats. Houston men got 41st out of 42 in the fast mens race. The women got 31 out of 35 in one of the slow races.

seems like he's doing a great job to me........oh wait that's terrible.

Ummm, are you aware there a lot more than 42 and 35 college teams in the nation? Seems not.

The pre-nats results did not seem to be representative of the team this year. I wonder whether Magness told them to save it for conference.

Of course, even if they ran their best, UH is a long, long, long way from being even a middle of the road distance program. UH's distance program barely existed prior to Magness. He started with nothing and is slowly building. Recruiting is very difficult with lots of very good Div. I Texas programs. UH has a few good academic programs, but is generally known as "Cougar High" and is a Houston area commuter school. Given the choice between UH and just about any other Div. I school in Texas, most will go elsewhere regardless of the coaching. Rome was not built in a day. But UH will always be limited as a distance program just because the school does not offer anything that you cannot find a better version of at other Div I schools.

I am aware, I was actually insulting him. His team couldn't average faster than 25 minutes. That's embarrassing. And the women are way worse.

Actually it is representative. Last year he had 1 runner under 14 min in the 5k. Then nobody else under 15 minutes.

I don't care what school he's at, he should have no issues recruiting. He coaches elites, wrote a book, worked for NOP, yet he can't convince kids to let him coach them? There are tons of schools out there that are way worse than Houston academically that are doing way better athletically.

Magness doesn't have 5 guys that can go under 9:30 for 2 miles. The woodlands does....

LOSER

Most of the guys on his team couldn't make the woodlands xc team.

mikeclendonthecableguy wrote:

I still want to know what makes this guy such a great coach. His team is an absolute bottom dweller.

Id love to see a daily blog from wetmore or Lanana but I guess theyre too busy...you know coaching.

You do realize he coaches at the University of Houston right?

Wetmore's Seton Hall teams - man they were national powers - not.

Under your theory, it's all about coaching so Oberlin should have been better than D1 teams when Lananna was there?

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rojo wrote:

Under your theory, it's all about coaching so Oberlin should have been better than D1 teams when Lananna was there?

Since Lananna was the Athletic Director at Oberlin and not the cross country coach, why should they have been better? He wasn't coaching anyone.

Rojo, maybe take a break from posting for a couple days.

rojo wrote:

mikeclendonthecableguy wrote:

I still want to know what makes this guy such a great coach. His team is an absolute bottom dweller.

Id love to see a daily blog from wetmore or Lanana but I guess theyre too busy...you know coaching.

You do realize he coaches at the University of Houston right?

Wetmore's Seton Hall teams - man they were national powers - not.

Under your theory, it's all about coaching so Oberlin should have been better than D1 teams when Lananna was there?

Rojo, I find it odd your stance on this... From other previous posts too... You seem to think recruiting talent is the key. But yet you witnessed what JK did with your brother....

Statements like "the athlete makes the coach" BS! JK made your brother! Statements like that seem to go against everything that Wejo wrote in the article "why I sucked in college" or whatever...

Seems like someone is only "talented" after they have run fast. Ignoring the training and coachjng that came before a big improvement.

Point is, Steve being s "great" coach should be able to develop average runners to sub 15 min 5k's. that does take talent, it takes intelligent training....

rojo wrote: Under your theory, it's all about coaching so Oberlin should have been better than D1 teams when Lananna was there?

The better example is Lananna at Dartmouth. You said that it was a joke and easy to qualify for xc nationals. When you failed, you blamed the environment of coaching at an Ivy. Lananna finished second twice at NCAA xc with Dartmouth. He must have been doing something right; something that Magness and you are missing.