I live and run in a rural area (Edgewood, NM about 35 miles east of Albuquerque). My main problem is loose dogs out on our quiet country roads (of which many of the dogs are not friendly). I always keep a heads-up of my surroundings while running, always tell my wife where I'm running, and wear a Road ID bracelet... and look and yell bigger and badder than the dogs!
Here's a link with a better picture of what happened. The story isn't that a jogger was killed, it is that the killer was a former football star. Doesn't say much for our society.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Jogger-Attacked-Killed-in-North-Dallas-Park-332022712.html
rojo wrote:
Note: We have been deleting comments on this thread trying to turn this into a discussion of crime rates by race. We don't want that discussion on this thread. Other posts along those lines will be deleted.
I'm actually pretty disappointed by this.
This country has heard 2+(?) years of police violence "stats" but when the perpetrator isn't within politically-correct offensive boundaries, the conversation gets shut down (nevermind the recent police execution in Houston and the Boston cop shot in the face a couple months ago). And furthermore dude, you've shifted the conversation to more-or-less an informal product launch. Shame on you rojo - this guy was one of us.
Despite what you read and see elsewhere (though few outlets are picking this up [outside of nytimes for one day and local] - and I've been looking), I'll turn this "racial": does this guy do this to a black jogger...? ...probably not ...Call this for what it was (like you would a white disturbed individual opening fire on a black church), this was a hate crime by a mentally disturbed individual with opportunistic-racial-intent and should be recorded and prosecuted as such.
My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the victim.
rojo wrote:
So people of letsrun.com, do you feel safe when you run? What say you?
I rarely run in the afternoon or evening, almost always only in the morning before or at sunrise. I used to live in a big city notorious for a high rate of violent crime and ran regularly by myself through many sketchy areas, but never felt unsafe because there's not much riff raff awake and out on the street at dawn as opposed to night.
I live in Upstate NY- Binghamton area (NOT in the city). I feel safe, it is safe.
My daughter ran alone, at night, in our neighborhood from 7th grade through 12th and there were never any issues.
We can leave our front door unlocked.
I know Texas gets a lot of bad press because their seems to be a lot of loonies living there- but again, that's all we hear about.
I just hate this incident and I think maybe it says more about football and brain damage than Texas.
Here's a profile on David Stevens the runner who got murdered.http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20151014-slain-jogger-had-passion-for-inventions-being-out-on-trail.eceStarts off: "David Stevens worked hard as an engineer and an inventor, but he lived to run"Pretty good runner. Says he ran under 3:30 in the marathon at age 52.
rojo wrote:
I've always wanted to invent an ipod shuffle type device you put a SIM card in so you could have something incredibly lightweight that would steam pandora and what not.
Maybe I should add in a safety feature to it and then get runner John Legere to fund it with me as he's a runner. What about one that also had a button that would call 911 automatically.? Not sure if it would need to have a speakerphone of some sort in it. I was thinking of a "I've fallen and can't keep up" life alert type thing.
What do you guys think of my product idea?
That reminded me of this cool GPS that has a SIM card in it and had an alert system that I learned about 2 years ago. You fall and break a leg and you could hit the button and it would text peopel your location and you needed help (if someone is stabbing you, it's likely not going to help). It was from Bia Sport. I reviewed their product here:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2013/12/bia-gps-watch-cellular-modem/Sadly they are out of business:
https://www.facebook.com/BiaSportI used to live in Dallas, but I guess I forgot or didn't know the White Rock Trail went up that far north. I was thinking it was just around the lake, Flagpole Hill, Norbuck Park.
I think this was pretty random, like getting run over by a car on a run. The football player just disappeared a few years ago after Texas A&M played Alabama. Likely a) mental issues and/or b) drugs.
exthrower wrote:
As IQ's go down, pit bull ownership rise's..
Glass houses?
wejo wrote:
Here's a profile on David Stevens the runner who got murdered.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20151014-slain-jogger-had-passion-for-inventions-being-out-on-trail.ece
Lol, last name of one of that article's writers is "Hacker".
People seem to have an idyllic impression of Vancouver, British Columbia, but there have been a number of violent crimes on runners in the last couple of years. I live in Vancouver, and occasionally run in Pacific Spirit Park, an amazing and beautiful system of trails surrounding the University of British Columbia. This area is surrounded by large, extremely affluent neighbourhoods to the east and south, and by ocean on the north and west. The trails are used by so many people during daylight hours that I tend to avoid them on week-ends after ~9AM because of the nuisance of off-leash dogs and their entitled owners. Recently I've noticed signs put up in various places warning about owls. A friend had one swoop down and scratch his head once. Owls are arseholes.
As nice a place as it is, there have been a series of violent crimes committed on runners in the area. The mayor of Vancouver's sister(1) was randomly murdered while running in Pacific Spirit park a few years ago, and there have been several violent sexual assaults on runners in the park much more recently(2).
Despite the history, I still see people running solo, wearing headphones on these trails.
1)http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/wendy-ladner-beaudry-unsolved-killing-a-random-attack-1.2597505
2)http://www.vancouversun.com/news/violent+assaults+Vancouver+same/10923161/story.html
Crime, boy, I don't know
Hmmm...... wrote:
exthrower wrote:As IQ's go down, pit bull ownership rise's..
Glass houses?
As IQ's go down, apostrophe u'se rise's.
Bob Sacamano wrote:
You must have a boring running group.
One of the weaknesses of our society is that we've lost the ability to discuss controversial topics without getting offended.
BS! How DARE you accuse me of that?!?
Hmmm...... wrote:
exthrower wrote:As IQ's go down, pit bull ownership rise's..
Glass houses?
Yellow birds?
More on the story wrote:
Good story here:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20151017-from-promise-at-am-to-killing-on-white-rock-trail-receiver-spiraled-through-madness.ece
I wonder whether the schizophrenia was the result of head trauma from football. Although, the onset for this guy (early 20s) was about the average.
Unfortunate update to this story-
Patti Stevens, 54 was found dead of suspected suicide on Sunday, October 25. She had previously stated that she was "lost" after the death of her husband.