Update: It's official, Mary Cain has left UP, returned home and is attending Fordham

I don't get the big uproar. Many kids go away and realize it is not for them. Outside of her being a big star runner, nothing is out of the norm. My guess is that she is going to stay at home, and train like she did in high school. Maybe fly to oregon for stints of training.

Maybe in a year or two try the move again.

definition of weird wrote:

College Drop Out wrote:

there is nothing wrong with taking a year off or taking online classes

Actually, taking all online classes for sophomore year is incredibly weird. Probably less than 1 in 1,000 students do this. Maybe 1 in 10,000.

The other poster said is isn't wrong, not that it isn't weird. So...what's your point?

Mary Cain did take out the first kilometer..

"small scale nyrr 5k in van cortlandt park. tough course with hills in the middle. mary cain showed up and led the first k, then it was just matt and I the rest of the way. felt pretty good, legs were slightly tired but matt's presence helped."

- log of guy who won the race

thank you

CPTCBANDIT wrote:

Mary Cain did take out the first kilometer..

"small scale nyrr 5k in van cortlandt park. tough course with hills in the middle. mary cain showed up and led the first k, then it was just matt and I the rest of the way. felt pretty good, legs were slightly tired but matt's presence helped."

- log of guy who won the race

dontgetit wrote:

I don't get the big uproar. Many kids go away and realize it is not for them. Outside of her being a big star runner, nothing is out of the norm. My guess is that she is going to stay at home, and train like she did in high school. Maybe fly to oregon for stints of training.

Maybe in a year or two try the move again.

yeah the difference here is that Mary Cain seems to be really smart, engaged with the world and curious. The question is if living at home will be good for her or not. Some people need to be moving forward to feel good about their running.

This is a place where her being in the NCAA might have been a good idea - to have a few years to try things out and rub shoulders with other bright young people.

Her talent is indisputable but she has to find herself in the right mental place - always hard as a 19 yr old.

Makes me think of Phoebe wright's podcast with magnussen - she said something like 'the training is pretty much the same whereever you are - what can set an athlete apart is getting in the right mental state/place.

CPTCBANDIT wrote:

Mary Cain did take out the first kilometer..

"small scale nyrr 5k in van cortlandt park. tough course with hills in the middle. mary cain showed up and led the first k, then it was just matt and I the rest of the way. felt pretty good, legs were slightly tired but matt's presence helped."

- log of guy who won the race

Cool - thanks for sharing that info. Looks from the results like the top 2 battled all the way to the line.

definition of weird wrote:

College Drop Out wrote:

there is nothing wrong with taking a year off or taking online classes

Actually, taking all online classes for sophomore year is incredibly weird. Probably less than 1 in 1,000 students do this. Maybe 1 in 10,000.

How many current college students skip running with their school team and turn pro? Probably 10 in 20.2 million do this. Maybe 5 in 11.5 million females.

I posted this on another Mary Cain thread, but if you have instagram, go on and search #marycain . You will notice many posts that, unless she is flying back every week or so, all but prove she is not at University of Portland this fall.

LetsRun.com wrote:

College Drop Out wrote:

Based on school already starting and she is at home it looks like she is isn't at Portland this fall.. With her career there is nothing wrong with taking a year off or taking online classes. Why she isn't with Salazar is weird, but with two years of struggling to improve (actually getting worse) maybe they want her back in her comfort zone.

According to twitter, her little sister also celebrated her 16th birthday last week so she just as easily could have gone home for a few days to celebrate.

We've contacted her management team and will post an update if we hear anything back from them.

sleazazar wrote:

College Drop Out wrote:

Why she isn't with Salazar is weird.

Doesn't seem weird to me that she realized he is an awful person and didn't want to be near him.

Maybe he got a little too handsy with the androgel massage?

If Mary Cain wore undersized bun huggers I think her times would improve drastically.

Mary is currently attending Fordham University in the Bronx as a commuter student. She's been spotted several times on campus and in the athletic complexes weight lifting by multiple people (for those saying it could be a lookalike, she was wearing official NOP gear while lifting). Fordham also has an internal Gmail server that prepopulates students emails just by searching by name, and a "Mary Cain" has been added to the database this semester (BroJos, I can provide a screenshot if you're interested. Just don't want to post this poor girl's personal email over the boards haha). While based on recent Instagrams mentioning Salazar implying she's still a NOP member, the move makes sense. The atmosphere of living at home while receiving workouts from Salazar across the country was apparently working given her numerous records/World Junior gold medal. Plus, Fordham is just a 16 minute train ride from Bronxville so it's an easy commute. She's also been seen at various Nike "Run Club" events at Van Cortlandt in the past month showing she's been in New York more than just this past weekend.

And yes, I realize I have no life by the amount I've looked into this...

She discussed her family and XC plans in this interview two months ago. Might have missed it.

https://runningworks.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/mary-cain-at-runningworks/

MD Phan wrote:

http://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/mary-cain-will-not-return-to-oregon?

Thanks for posting. Love this quote: "Cain is running track sessions at her hometown Bronxville High School or at an oval in Riverbank State Park on Manhattan’s West Side along the Hudson River. She also trains in Central Park."

Mary Cain is working out to Riverbank?! Just, um, wow. The track surface up there is pretty nice - it was redone a few years ago - but it can be a bit, um, challenging to run workouts there what with the random kids / soccer balls / frisbees / football parents / etc wandering across the track.

Maybe if I go up to Riverbank at just the right time, I can catch AlSal there checking up on her.

Seriously, who the hell cares?!?! Like a lot of young women who are blazingly fast in their younger years, she peaked out and will now be running mere mortal times. Think Nicole Blood. With the money Nike is still spending on her they could hire 50,000 new sweatshop employees. Meanwhile I won't hold my breath on a miraculous return to form. Stick a fork in her boys, she's done.

Cain's agent, Ricky Simms has informed us that Mary Cain has indeed left the University of Portland. She's returned home to NY, is attending Fordham and will train as part of the NOP remotely as she did in HS.

Details here:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/10/with-olympic-year-looming-mary-cain-has-gone-back-to-the-basicsand-returned-home-cain-living-at-home-attending-fordham-university-and-still-part-of-the-nop/

John Henwood, maybe. Not AlSal

Sticker of fork wrote:

Seriously, who the hell cares?!?! Like a lot of young women who are blazingly fast in their younger years, she peaked out and will now be running mere mortal times. Think Nicole Blood.

Nicole Blood, while a fantastic athlete in her HS and college years, was NO Mary Cain.

Cain's agent, Ricky Simms has informed us that Mary Cain has indeed left the University of Portland. She's returned home to NY, is attending Fordham and will train as part of the NOP remotely as she did in HS.

Details here:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/10/with-olympic-year-looming-mary-cain-has-gone-back-to-the-basicsand-returned-home-cain-living-at-home-attending-fordham-university-and-still-part-of-the-nop/