Weather was nice.
Weather was nice.
weren't you just commenting yesterday that " why does anyone except the coach care about early season meets"
Maybe they ran it like a tactical WC 10000 meter race, jogged the first 3-4 miles, then started racing?
It said 8400m, dummy
They weren't running that hard. Wisconsin ran in a pack and were wearing flats.
Would 380 feet of elevation gain make a difference?
Considering that Malachy Schrobilgen Joe Hardy and Olin Hacker aren't there I think that was not a very serious meet. VCP is also not a fast course. Doesn't really make sense for those two teams to try and race there for such a low key meet and not try to go somewhere closer for a dual.
heyo wrote:
Considering that Malachy Schrobilgen Joe Hardy and Olin Hacker aren't there I think that was not a very serious meet. VCP is also not a fast course. Doesn't really make sense for those two teams to try and race there for such a low key meet and not try to go somewhere closer for a dual.
Are you blind?
How smart are all these college coach that they're so scared to race for real more than 5x a year?
Does the AD at each of these schools approve of spening thousands of dollars to go on a tempo run?
No wonder our sport gets dropped/ignored!
Unfortunately smartie you are right
Traditionally, we always went to the MO Southern Stampede in Joplin this last weekend. Enabled us to have a relatively short drive, and do our Sunday long run with quality. John knew what he was going. Why the Hogs feel the need to travel across the country to NY is completely beyond me.
Can someone tell me what the hell was going on in the Bronx yesterday? How can two nationally ranked teams run VCP and only 1 guy breaks 26:00?
Was the course a) long or b) did they run off course or c) was it like 120 degrees (which would be weird as it was nice here yesterday in Baltimore)?
https://xc.tfrrs.org/results/xc/7750.html
1 Tonui, Frankline JR-3 Arkansas 25:59.5
2 Heymsfield, Christian JR-3 Arkansas 26:00.1
3 McDonald, Morgan SO-2 Wisconsin 26:10.1
4 Sandvold, Russell JR-3 Wisconsin 26:10.1
5 Miehe, Tyson FR-1 Wisconsin 26:10.1
silly rojo wrote:
weren't you just commenting yesterday that " why does anyone except the coach care about early season meets"
I don't care about who beats who but do care to know why the times were SO SO slow.
Someone said it's 8400. That's not what's listed on TFRRS.
Anyone?
They're required to compete in a certain number of meets and pretty much just showed up to check a box. Mick Byrne used to coach at Iona, so they took a trip there. Seems reasonable to me
Say what you will about early season meets, but it seems ridiculous to host an invite where teams come from all over and then not run your guys.
likely the course was long, looks like an extra 200-400 meters was added. Assuming the course was 8400, we'd be seeing times in the high 24s, reasonable.
mens course map says 8k, womens 6.1k. I don't think it was long. They are clearly saying it is 8k as they took the time to say the women's was NOT 6k.
Totally bizarre to see times that slow. When heps was there you would see 30-40 guys under 26
rojo wrote:
Can someone tell me what the hell was going on in the Bronx yesterday? How can two nationally ranked teams run VCP and only 1 guy breaks 26:00?
Calm down. There's like 11 people in the world who care about this. Sage advice I got on another thread.
smartie wrote:
How smart are all these college coach that they're so scared to race for real more than 5x a year?
Does the AD at each of these schools approve of spening thousands of dollars to go on a tempo run?
No wonder our sport gets dropped/ignored!
This.
If you want our sport to mean something you need to race. Administrators don't understand running but the understand wins and losses.
Bring back dual meets. Regular season needs to matter in qualifying. Sand yes, this is why our sport gets dropped.
My AD told me he likes cross country because anyone can do it. That's how these guys think.