What if 5 Million Syrian refugee rushed Israeli border tomorrow?

The neoconservatives arguably have damaged American national interests more than any group in modern history. They have done more harm than the marginal Communists pursued by Sen. Joe McCarthy in the 1950s, more than the Yippies of the 1960s, more than Richard Nixon’s Watergate burglars in the 1970s or the Iran-Contra conspirators in the 1980s.

The neocons have plunged the U.S. government into extraordinarily ill-considered wars wasting trillions of dollars, killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, and destabilizing large swaths of the planet including the Middle East, much of Africa and now Europe. Those costs include a swelling hatred against America and a deformed U.S. foreign policy elite that is no longer capable of formulating coherent strategies.

Yet, the neocons have remained immune from the consequences of their catastrophes. They still dominate Washington’s major think tanks as well as the op-ed pages of virtually all the leading newspapers, including The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Times. They hold down key positions in the State Department, and their “liberal interventionist” pals have the ear of President Barack Obama.

Clearly, the neocons are skilled operatives, knowing how to arrange a steady stream of funding for themselves, from military contractors donating to think tanks, from U.S. taxpayers footing the bill for organizations like the National Endowment for Democracy, and from ideological billionaires set on aligning U.S. foreign policy with hard-line Israeli desires.

The neocons are adept at writing op-ed articles that twist any set of facts into support for their ideological cause; they supply just the right quote that fits into the news cycle’s latest narrative; and they host policy conferences that attract powerful politicians and fawning media coverage.

But are the neocons a force that can coexist with the American Republic? Have they become an existential threat not only to the constitutional structure crafted in 1787 but to continued life on the planet? Are they locked on a course of action that could lead to a nuclear holocaust?

Clearly, the neocons’ commitment to Israeli interests violates a key principle established by the nation’s early presidents who all warned against “foreign entangling alliances” as a fundamental threat to a citizens’ republic that would transform America into a warrior state that would inevitably sap the nation’s liberties.

That loss of liberty has surely happened. Not only is there now bipartisan support for a surveillance state that can spy on the personal lives of American citizens, but the U.S. government has wedded itself to the concept of “strategic communications,” a catch-phrase that merges psychological operations, propaganda and P.R. into a seamless approach toward managing public perceptions at home and abroad.

When information is systematically pushed through a filter designed to ensure consent, the core democratic concept of an informed electorate has been turned on its head: The people no longer oversee the government; the government manipulates the people.

Yippies and a few communists harmed national interests?

coach wrote:

Yippies and a few communists harmed national interests?

Obviously the communists did with their spying for the Soviet Union, etc. (the Rosenbergs, for example).

Coincidentally (not really) both the groups you mention were Jewish dominated groups.

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K5 detector wrote:

This thread has received the K5 seal of approval.

Yes.

Many of us put America and morality above Israel and racist colonialism.

Crazy, huh?

If morality is so important to us in the US we should be opening our borders to these and other refugees. But we rarely do.

The refugees are descendants of people who have roamed around the Middle East since they first arrive from the Nile Region 50,000 to 80,000 years ago. They should be able to live in US Occupied Palestine (Israel) where there is so much free welfare funds available from US taxpayers.

coach wrote:

If morality is so important to us in the US we should be opening our borders to these and other refugees. But we rarely do.

You are confusing the American people -- who basically have no say in what this nation's policies are - with the racist elites who run things and hate all Arabs and Muslims.

What we need is 5 million patriotic Americans to show up at the next AIPAC conference next spring and make citizen arrests of all the treasonous pols who go there to pledge loyalty to the Israel Lobby

Obama and Israel wrote:

What is the question????

I feel that Obama would love to see Israel wiped off the planet and replaced with 2 countries - one Hamas-ruled and one Hezbollah-ruled.

The Hebrews did a good job of destroying ancient Israel and splitting it into 2 after the death of King David.

le veritable wrote:

This thread has been a delightful read. Does anyone know how it could be made any more racist?

lol +1

Yes this is important wrote:

Michael Savage raised the possibility yesterday on his radio show. With babies an old ladies, how could President Obama refuse them? Discuss.

The jewish lobby in the US sides with Israel expelling all non-jews, and keeping non-jews out of Israel, and they fight and lobby for the US and Europe to be overrun with third world dreck. Figure it out.

K5 detector wrote:

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I got banned yesterday for using an offensive handle and making an exaggerated/sarcastic claim. Meanwhile the rest of this shitpost-fest runs rampant.

Typical Letsrun. Blatant fanatic batshit racist insanity? That's cool. Stir the pot a little and coax out the batshit? Ban.

Stay classy, idiots.

fred wrote:

The U.S. and Russia are 100% morally responsible for what is happening there.

If "the US and Russia are 100% morally responsible for what is happening there" it follows that the folks who are murdering, raping, etc are 0% responsible for their own actions.

Since that conclusion is obviously FALSE it follows that your statement is obviously WRONG.

the way it is these days wrote:

Yes this is important wrote:

Michael Savage raised the possibility yesterday on his radio show. With babies an old ladies, how could President Obama refuse them? Discuss.

The jewish lobby in the US sides with Israel expelling all non-jews, and keeping non-jews out of Israel, and they fight and lobby for the US and Europe to be overrun with third world dreck. Figure it out.

[quote]Whoa Nilly wrote:

Well, don't blame Jews per se. Blame ZZiioonniisstt. Really. Because BDS, Open Hillel, Action Chabad, Jewish Voice For Peace, etc. are run by mostly American Jews and are diametrically opposed to ZZiioonniissmm.

Not so. They are all controlled opposition that believes in Zionism, Jewish privilege, and that America should continue to support Israel.

Under the guise of rooting out "anti-semites" (WTF does that have to do with opposing Zi*nism?) they have black balled many people from speaking engagements including the late Helen Thomas and Alison Weir

You mad, bro?

This thread is absurd.

The problems in Syria - with human rights abuses of mythic proportions from multiple sects and parties - has nothing, as in zero - to do with Israel.

This is not a defense of any of Israel's policies. It is just a statement of fact.

Assad, the growth of Isis, Iran's sponsorship of terror and mischief, the civil war in Yemen, the chaos in Libya, the barbarity in Afghanistan, and so on. These disasters would all be taking place even if Israel was blown off the map.

There are some tough questions about the ability of the peoples living in the Middle East to adapt to the modern world. Islam appears to be inextricably bound up with these challenges. Beyond Islam there appear to be significant cultural impediments to modernity as well. The treatment of women as property seems to be a bellweather of a kind. And perhaps the lower overall cognitive abilities of the populations don't help.

In any event, I don't see how Israel is relevant to the Syrian conflicts.

[quote]this thread is absurd wrote:

This thread is absurd.

The problems in Syria - with human rights abuses of mythic proportions from multiple sects and parties - has nothing, as in zero - to do with Israel.

I nominate this post for the most ignorant statement of the month.