What do you guys think the fastest someone came run in each event based on purely mileage and the occasional stride, for the most talented, and least talented what do you think?
What do you guys think the fastest someone came run in each event based on purely mileage and the occasional stride, for the most talented, and least talented what do you think?
For the most talented World Records and for the least, inability to move at all.
Well I would imagine that anything for the 3k and up could be extremely fast and close to world class if the mileage is quality, involves tempo training and the athlete is extremely talented.
For something like 800m, depends on how naturally quick the athlete is. I've known a high school runner who ran 1.51 at 17 years old on very little training. So maybe 1.47 for the 800m, but I doubt much quicker. The body would need to get use to the lactic.
Run distance just below marathon pace, throw in strides, race a lot, and you should get fairly close to your potential.
Benq1985 wrote:
So maybe 1.47 for the 800m, but I doubt much quicker. The body would need to get use to the lactic.
This is nonsense. If the body can run 1:47 without 'getting used to the lactic(whatever that means) it can do any other speed.
Got to love the hostile tone. If my comment is nonsense, what is "can do any other speed".
I'm going to assume you just like to troll and pick a fight or you have no idea.
You have to get a tolerance to lactic acid when running the 400m or 800m. No 2 ways about it. You will not build up any lactic acid running slow mileage.
The OP asked how fast purely off mileage. I'm just saying I doubt the most talented guy in the world could beat 1.47 doing just mileage because the body has no tolerance to lactic acid running through their body at that speed.
But hey, it might just be nonsense.
Lacttase intolerant wrote:
Benq1985 wrote:So maybe 1.47 for the 800m, but I doubt much quicker. The body would need to get use to the lactic.
This is nonsense. If the body can run 1:47 without 'getting used to the lactic(whatever that means) it can do any other speed.
If people could run the 800m at "any other speed," why don't they just go out and run it in 10 seconds? Or 2 seconds? There clearly are bounds on the speed at which people are able to run the 800m.
Benq1985 wrote:
Got to love the hostile tone. If my comment is nonsense, what is "can do any other speed".
I'm going to assume you just like to troll and pick a fight or you have no idea.
You have to get a tolerance to lactic acid when running the 400m or 800m. No 2 ways about it. You will not build up any lactic acid running slow mileage.
The OP asked how fast purely off mileage. I'm just saying I doubt the most talented guy in the world could beat 1.47 doing just mileage because the body has no tolerance to lactic acid running through their body at that speed.
But hey, it might just be nonsense.
1:46? 1:45? 1:39?
First of all "lactic acid" isn't a factor in running but even if it was more waste products aren't produced just because an athlete is faster.
Everyone feels pretty much the same in a hard 800.
Now go update your physiology studies.
I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was talking to a moron. Go back to licking windows.
Lactic acid isn't even a factor??? I bet you build up plenty whackin off your little pecker.
Lmao this thread got hilarious
Benq1985 wrote:
I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was talking to a moron. Go back to licking windows.
Lactic acid isn't even a factor??? I bet you build up plenty whackin off your little pecker.
Nope. not a factor in any "strenuous" activity. Back to physiology class!
any speed? wrote:
Lacttase intolerant wrote:This is nonsense. If the body can run 1:47 without 'getting used to the lactic(whatever that means) it can do any other speed.
If people could run the 800m at "any other speed," why don't they just go out and run it in 10 seconds? Or 2 seconds? There clearly are bounds on the speed at which people are able to run the 800m.
Way to take that literally but an arbitrary number(1:47) can not be selected as the limit for basic mileage and strides training.
If you race with any frequency, you're getting a form of speedwork in.
Jordan McNamara? What?
sweg wrote:
What do you guys think the fastest someone came run in each event based on purely mileage and the occasional stride, for the most talented, and least talented what do you think?
The answer is Mark Nenow.
There's plenty of ultra marathoners that can't break 7min/mile in a 10k. They're doing more mileage than most but at a very slow pace. To me, this proves mileage only doesn't work. You need a mix and faster running at times.
the answer lies with ultras wrote:
There's plenty of ultra marathoners that can't break 7min/mile in a 10k. They're doing more mileage than most but at a very slow pace. To me, this proves mileage only doesn't work. You need a mix and faster running at times.
That's because 98 percent of ultra runners lack the talent of speed.
the answer lies with ultras wrote:
There's plenty of ultra marathoners that can't break 7min/mile in a 10k. They're doing more mileage than most but at a very slow pace. To me, this proves mileage only doesn't work. You need a mix and faster running at times.
So how do you account for guys like Mark Nenow, Mark Curp, Ron Clarke and Derek Clayton?
Bill Rodgers in his book Marathon Man said he ran 2:20-2:30 off of pretty much 170 mpw of 7 min miles.
He would run some road races here and there, plus he was already a decent runner. He broke 9 in college for the 2 mile. So no doubt that helped him a fair bit.
You gotta define your premise better. I mean how fast until it no longer counts as "mileage" in your hypothetical? If I throw in a 5 mile tempo segment at 5 minute pace in the middle of the my 10 mile run does that count as mileage?