As I can see he has released up to early 2012. Let's see him do the rest - or NOT
As I can see he has released up to early 2012. Let's see him do the rest - or NOT
Digalittledeeper wrote:
As I can see he has released up to early 2012. Let's see him do the rest - or NOT
Someone should ask him
He says he wants to do everything be can,he should be prepared to release all data
Keep in mind that mo farah is slick and very media savvy
It was apparent from the press interview at the time of the Salazar controversy that he has something to hide
It seems convenient to hide behind - I've released all my data. Data up until April 2012 is not being transparent, 3 more years to come.
Do you mean to say Farah was fatter before and lost body fat in the last few years? I thought he was always skinny like Kiprop is. Is that not the case? I am not being sarcastic. I am honestly trying to understand if he dropped his body fat if that is what you are suggesting? I understood Mo's account is that he started focusing on strength for speed endurance. I am not endorsing it. I am just curious about your position,
Bad Wigins wrote:
Never mind his blood values, where did he hide all his body fat?
From talking to Ross Tucker, it means very little to just release off-scores which is all the Sunday Times has done. A full release would include everything, hematocrit etc.
I'm not trying to be critical of Farah as he may have told the Times to release everything but off-scores is all the Sunday Times has published.
Are we going to get a wikileaks dump of the whole database at somepoint?
I think other entities must have seen the entire database right?
You obviously have no clue about body fat percentage or "fatness". The two are not the same. A body fat of 5% are very hard to obtain, and is eve harder to maintain. Farah seems to be well under 5% for quit some time now. In other words very unhealthy, and the potential for further heath problems is very high.
http://www.mensfitness.com/weight-loss/15-negative-effects-having-low-body-fat-percentage
Farrah has access to all of his blood test data for the bio passport (from 2009) through his ADAMS account. He only ok'ed the relase of the OFF-scores from the data Sunday Times had from the leaked IAAF database (up to sometime in 2012). If he wanted real transparency he'd let the journalists look around in his ADAMS and release it all, Same goes for the others who ok'ed relase of their off-scores from the leaked database.
Mo will NEVER have a positive rest, cause the team of Drs that work for Nike or Salazar or whoever already know where his values are at AND they have tested to see how much they need to give each athlete... of course this is ALL hypothetical, but hey the season is over we need something to talk about right? LOL
wejo wrote:
From talking to Ross Tucker, it means very little to just release off-scores which is all the Sunday Times has done. A full release would include everything, hematocrit etc.
I'm not trying to be critical of Farah as he may have told the Times to release everything but off-scores is all the Sunday Times has published.
Are we going to get a wikileaks dump of the whole database at somepoint?
I think other entities must have seen the entire database right?
A wiki leak dump? I very much doubt it. The person who leaked the information to the Sunday Times made sure the Times did not do that and made sure that people who had suspicious blood levels were not named. A dump would lead to hundreds of athletes being named.
For example, the ST stated that British stars such as Ennis and Farah competed with athletes who had suspicious blood levels. Their names have not been released nor their data.
In a TV interview last week Paula categorically stated that Mo has not agreed to release his blood data ! One can only assume that he has released only the blood scores and nott the full data !
There's a huge difference between what "general public" thinks is 5% body fat and what it really is, as measured by, say, DEXA scanning . A true 5% reading is very very low and you can basically see the anatomy under the skin.
To my eye, Farah actually looks quite a bit above 5% body fat. His physique doesn't have much in the way of visible veins and striations and you can't see separation between muscle groups.
Compare with pictures of Helmut Strebl at (self-declared) 4% body fat (which means his true measurement is probably higher).
bobgob wrote:
wejo wrote:From talking to Ross Tucker, it means very little to just release off-scores which is all the Sunday Times has done. A full release would include everything, hematocrit etc.
I'm not trying to be critical of Farah as he may have told the Times to release everything but off-scores is all the Sunday Times has published.
Are we going to get a wikileaks dump of the whole database at somepoint?
I think other entities must have seen the entire database right?
A wiki leak dump? I very much doubt it. The person who leaked the information to the Sunday Times made sure the Times did not do that and made sure that people who had suspicious blood levels were not named. A dump would lead to hundreds of athletes being named.
For example, the ST stated that British stars such as Ennis and Farah competed with athletes who had suspicious blood levels. Their names have not been released nor their data.
Pretty sure you are right, there will not be anything like a wiki leak dump. The person who leaked the database requested that athletes who hadn't previously been sanctioned for anti-doping rule violatoions shouldn't be named.
Paula turned up in the lists used in the Seppelt/ARD documentary aired in December last year. The OFF-score values publihed by Sky news could be from those lists. They were clearly doing the rounds among British journalists. I don't think the whole leaked database has been seen by very many, probably only the Sunday Times group of resarchers and journalists, Ashenden and Parisotto, Seppelt and maybe some more at ARD, and now the WADA D. Pound lead commission.
The person who leaked the database wanted IAAF and the international anti-doping failure exposed, not so much Radcliffe or other athletes.