Never thought I'd see the day that Mo Farah takes a dig at Paula Radcliffe for doping. How times have changed.
Never thought I'd see the day that Mo Farah takes a dig at Paula Radcliffe for doping. How times have changed.
LOL ... edited values provided by Freud Communications; Farah's PR firm. Carefully scrubbed. Gone over by nameless doping experts to make sure no questionable data is exposed.
Well, where are the results? Are we allowed to determine if he is hiding something?
You can be 100% guaranteed there would be articles galore in british press if there were any abnormalities in Farah's blood data. He released it and there is nothing, no articles or anything, so obviously no abnormalities.
Lolzy wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/11/mo-farah-paula-radcliffe-blood-dataNever thought I'd see the day that Mo Farah takes a dig at Paula Radcliffe for doping. How times have changed.
If you had bothered to read the article, then you'd know that he wasn't having a dig at Paula and has actually backed her stance, stating that it should be a personal decision.
He's also said that he released his data because of the Salazar situation. Because simpletons kept accusing him of doping, despite no allegations made against him.
As he himself said, damned if you do, damned if you don't. No accusation + normal blood levels + releasing the data = people still accusing him. Makes no difference. But at least on this issue, he can't be accused of hiding his blood data.
Will Farah release the mass of blood charts Salazar has special access to? No, he never will.
gobber bobby wrote:
Will Farah release the mass of blood charts Salazar has special access to? No, he never will.
Another idiot.
Are you aware that UK Athletics has full access to Farah's blood data, supplements data and all other medical data and only they deal with that side, not Salazar? Salazar only deals with the coaching aspect. An independent panel was set up by UK Athletics to look into Farah's relationship with Salazar and cleared Farah and said that Farah's data was normal.
Moron, Dolt, Imbecile, Fool.
Salazar has special blood tests done. You seem to be unaware of Salazar's manifesto where he tried to explain Rupp's blood chart--the one Magness saw-- that stated currently on testosterone; oops should have been test-o-boost.
gobber bobby wrote:
Moron, Dolt, Imbecile, Fool.
Salazar has special blood tests done. You seem to be unaware of Salazar's manifesto where he tried to explain Rupp's blood chart--the one Magness saw-- that stated currently on testosterone; oops should have been test-o-boost.
I'm aware of Salazar's relationship with Rupp. But if you did some basic research, you'd know that Salazar's sole role is to Coach Farah. Period. Everything else is handled by UK Athletics.
For example, when the Salazar story broke in June, Farah spent the entire summer away from Salazar and trained in France under British Athletics endurance coach, Barry Fudge. Fudge received emails from Salazar detailing Farah' training sessions.
Does Rupp have a Barry Fudge equivalent? Did he spend time away from Salazar during the controversy? Of course not, because Salazar is Rupp's full time coach and handles everything for Rupp. Coaching, supplement and medical data. That's not the case with Farah.
I hope I've made it easy for you to understand.
I'm sorry. I'm just getting to this late. Would you please send me the links to the blood work (Jerry Schumacher's and USADA and WADA) of Evan Jager, Dan Huling, Chris Derrick, Shalane Flanagan, Emily Infield, Ryan Hill, Ben True? I must have missed them. Thanks in advance. Oh yes, dumb me: please post the links of the "special blood tests". Sorry.
gobber bobby wrote:
Moron, Dolt, Imbecile, Fool.
Salazar has special blood tests done. You seem to be unaware of Salazar's manifesto where he tried to explain Rupp's blood chart--the one Magness saw-- that stated currently on testosterone; oops should have been test-o-boost.
Montesquieu wrote:
I'm sorry. I'm just getting to this late. Would you please send me the links to the blood work (Jerry Schumacher's and USADA and WADA) of Evan Jager, Dan Huling, Chris Derrick, Shalane Flanagan, Emily Infield, Ryan Hill, Ben True? I must have missed them. Thanks in advance. Oh yes, dumb me: please post the links of the "special blood tests". Sorry.
gobber bobby wrote:Moron, Dolt, Imbecile, Fool.
Salazar has special blood tests done. You seem to be unaware of Salazar's manifesto where he tried to explain Rupp's blood chart--the one Magness saw-- that stated currently on testosterone; oops should have been test-o-boost.
You also are unaware of the secret tests Salazar does. Salazar has admitted he has blood test data that is not from WADA. Now like a good little troll, go read Salazar's manifesto.
bobgob wrote:
Lolzy wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/11/mo-farah-paula-radcliffe-blood-dataNever thought I'd see the day that Mo Farah takes a dig at Paula Radcliffe for doping. How times have changed.
If you had bothered to read the article, then you'd know that he wasn't having a dig at Paula and has actually backed her stance, stating that it should be a personal decision.
He's also said that he released his data because of the Salazar situation. Because simpletons kept accusing him of doping, despite no allegations made against him.
As he himself said, damned if you do, damned if you don't. No accusation + normal blood levels + releasing the data = people still accusing him. Makes no difference. But at least on this issue, he can't be accused of hiding his blood data.
He absolutely took a dig at Paula.
He said he released his data because he had nothing to hide during an interview about the Radcliffe scandal, which clearly implies she has something to hide.
I remember last year after Farah ran the London marathon and was trying to get back in track shape he backed out of a race and Paula criticized him publicly. He took offense to it, saying that Paula watched him struggle through a workout and advised him to shut it down. It was
a tense exchange. I'm sure Farrah's on his high horse as the radcliffe scandal unfolds and I don't blame him. Blood transfusion cheats out.
Again, if you bothered to read the quote in context, you'd know he was referring to his situation. Hence, why he didn't state people should release their data, just that he felt comfortable releasing his.
Finally, if you don't want to accept my interpretation of Farah's quotes. That article you provided? Have a go and read the sub heading. The journalist, Sean Ingle, wrote this:
But wait, I thought you said he was having a dig at Paula? Clearly I and the Journalist from the link you provided, are clearly wrong. In that case, sorry. Clearly your interpretations are correct.
In fact, here's another link from another British journalist. Take a look at the headline -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/11859357/Paula-Radcliffe-backed-by-Mo-Farah-and-Greg-Rutherford.htmlClearly he's wrong as well. I mean, why does the headline say - "Radcliffe backed by Farah"?
Never mind his blood values, where did he hide all his body fat?
Freud shills up early on a Saturday? Cheerio
What "secret" tests? You don't think Canova takes private blood tests of his athletes? That Schumacher doesn't? That Barker in Minnesota doesn't? Every coach at a high enough level to have resources blood tests his athletes during training. Now perhaps you know exactly what each of them tests. If so, please inform us and tell us your sources. You see, you really don't know. You make suppositions, try to pawn them off as facts, and then you castigate anyone who complains--nay, not castigate, you insult.
gobber bobby wrote:
Montesquieu wrote:I'm sorry. I'm just getting to this late. Would you please send me the links to the blood work (Jerry Schumacher's and USADA and WADA) of Evan Jager, Dan Huling, Chris Derrick, Shalane Flanagan, Emily Infield, Ryan Hill, Ben True? I must have missed them. Thanks in advance. Oh yes, dumb me: please post the links of the "special blood tests". Sorry.
You also are unaware of the secret tests Salazar does. Salazar has admitted he has blood test data that is not from WADA. Now like a good little troll, go read Salazar's manifesto.
Poor Montesquieu, all butt hurt once again. One of the ultimate NOP fanboys.
No they don't take private blood tests. What fantasy world are you living in?
Montesquieu wrote:
What "secret" tests? You don't think Canova takes private blood tests of his athletes? That Schumacher doesn't? That Barker in Minnesota doesn't? Every coach at a high enough level to have resources blood tests his athletes during training. Now perhaps you know exactly what each of them tests. If so, please inform us and tell us your sources. You see, you really don't know. You make suppositions, try to pawn them off as facts, and then you castigate anyone who complains--nay, not castigate, you insult.
gobber bobby wrote:You also are unaware of the secret tests Salazar does. Salazar has admitted he has blood test data that is not from WADA. Now like a good little troll, go read Salazar's manifesto.
You're right, and your descriptive prose captures it felicitously. I'm whatever you say I am, despite the fact that you know nothing about me, and Farah must be doping, because there's no other way to explain how someone has the 64th best 5000 meter time ever, and the 25th best 10000 meter time. But honestly, what I loathe, genuinely loathe, is those who make claims excoriating others, not just with no evidence, but without accepting even the possibility of exculpatory evidence. As regards Lance Armstrong, if you search this site, you should find threads in which I expressed the sentiment that he was probably doping. As regards Farah, no one outside of the cyberworld of LetsRun as ever accused him of doping! However, continue on.
Montes Quieu wrote:
Poor Montesquieu, all butt hurt once again. One of the ultimate NOP fanboys.
Poor, Montesquieu. Alas, poor, poor, Montesquieu. He hath no thing to offer. No things of true value.