What a year for "massive" unheralded improvements in athletics! Bosnian 800m, SA 400m, Turkish 200m, Kenyan 400mh

Kenyans running well in the 400mh isn't that strange considering their strength in the 800 and relative strength in the 400m

Guliyev was a fantastically talented junior who went off the map as he had nationality conflict it seems

The 400m has been insane all over the place. Part of that could be the Beijing track being well suited for the event.

Side note: what's the deal with Makwala? He runs insane times at altitude but then doesn't seem to be half the runner at sea level (I know altitude helps but does it really take you to #5 all time. I mean in the race where Guliyev ran 19.88 he ran 20.7. Maybe just tired)

all igf-1 lr3 dopers .

just showes you if throw in testosterone for 6 months like turk

what it can do . his strength is difference ,as rounds in beijing show.

and if add serious steroids to igf-1 then have previous certain island.

that beijing track for 200 to 800m was definitely aid to longer bouncier stride

which ramil is half and half .

he should of broke 20 there

this harder track suited choppier stride .

Sarcasticman wrote:

What a year for "massive" unheralded improvements in athletics? The way these guys have made huuuuuge improvements in time in a very short period gives us all hope. I am a 32 min 10Km runner at best but I now reckon that I can get to sub 28 min.

If only I can work out what is fuelling their improvements? Desire? Training?

Any ideas?

Nothing. It is absolutely impossible that anyone in the world could naturally be faster or more hardworking than you with you 32 minute 10k.

Stop looking for excuses. It's pathetic.

aduck2022 wrote:

all igf-1 lr3 dopers .

just showes you if throw in testosterone for 6 months like turk

what it can do . his strength is difference ,as rounds in beijing show.

and if add serious steroids to igf-1 then have previous certain island.

that beijing track for 200 to 800m was definitely aid to longer bouncier stride

which ramil is half and half .

he should of broke 20 there

this harder track suited choppier stride .

Does igf-1 lr3 affect an athlete's ability to write coherent sentences?

He run well at small meets at altitude and bombs at diamond leagues. The only decent race I can recall watching from him was his semi at worlds

aduck2022 wrote:

that beijing track for 200 to 800m was definitely aid to longer bouncier stride

this harder track suited choppier stride .

Mmkay.

Woodstock wrote:

He run well at small meets at altitude and bombs at diamond leagues. The only decent race I can recall watching from him was his semi at worlds

Makwala has tremendous trouble pacing himself. He did speed based training under Glenn Mills in Jamaica so he likes to go out very hard. He has recently been doing longer intervals from December to March. I remember looking at his Facebook and a couple weeks before world champs he ran 2 x 350m in 38 flat and 38.7 which both suggest a sub 44 or 44 low performance.

they went from being male subelite to male elite.

the improvement you mentioned would be female elite to male elite.

not comparable or possible.

What a year for "massive" unheralded improvements in athletics? The way these guys have made huuuuuge improvements in time in a very short period gives us all hope. I am a 32 min 10Km runner at best but I now reckon that I can get to sub 28 min.

If only I can work out what is fuelling their improvements? Desire? Training?

Any ideas?

I rekon you could drop 4min in the 10k if the following are true:

1.You can run 2k at goal10k pace,

2.You can get the right concoction of drugs to allow you to train like an animal without breakdown for a year or more so you can then sustain that pace 5x.

That's what the pros do.

whaaaa? wrote:

Um, dont know about the others, but Guliyev is not Turkish, and he ran 20.08 as a junior 6 yrs ago, so no, no huuuuge improvement.

Ya. Guliyev

Guy was hurt. The 142 is bogus.

whaaaa? wrote:

Um, dont know about the others, but Guliyev is not Turkish, and he ran 20.08 as a junior 6 yrs ago, so no, no huuuuge improvement.

Ya. Guliyev

Guy was hurt. The margin of victory however was shocking. That was worth 19.60 in great conditions. Which means beijing races were pre peak and amounter to training.

Time has no mass.

In an infinite parallel universes, there isn't a single one where that Azerbaijani/Turk is clean.

trollism wrote:

In an infinite parallel universes, there isn't a single one where that Azerbaijani/Turk is clean.

That's why he defected to Turkey, wayyy easier to get PEDs, good enough to get you gold medal, just ask Asli Cakir. That being said, 19.88 is pretty darn good doped or not.

trollism wrote:

In an infinite parallel universes, there isn't a single one where that Azerbaijani/Turk is clean.

That goes for any sub 20 Americans as well.

Asli Cakir sez wrote:

trollism wrote:

In an infinite parallel universes, there isn't a single one where that Azerbaijani/Turk is clean.

That's why he defected to Turkey, wayyy easier to get PEDs, good enough to get you gold medal, just ask Asli Cakir. That being said, 19.88 is pretty darn good doped or not.

Switch that negative wind around and he probably would have run 19.5x; I don't think anyone else in the race came close to breaking 20. It is amazing to see an NCAA all-American type become top-5 in the world in one season.

Guliyev is the 2nd fastest junior in the 200m of all time after Usain Bolt.

This article looking at the recent doping controversy in Kenya touched on Nicholas Bett's massive improvement as he went from running 51s at the Commonwealth Games and African Championships to 47 this year. Kenyan journalist Evelyn Watta mentions that Bett had no coach, relying on Youtube videos, when he was running those times until he and the other Kenyan hurdler (Boniface Mucheru) were scouted by South African coach Hennie Koetze upon seeing their potential.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/aug/26/kenya-world-athletics-championships-medal-table