How many current American running records have been set while winning the race?

Good question.For males:

mile yes

1500 no

5000 no

10,000 no

St. no

800 idk

marathon no

400 yes

Those are the top of my head answers.

The GOAT Alan Webb won his race when setting the mile AR.

Michael Johnson won his race when setting the WR/AR (obvs)

FloJo won her race when setting the WR/AR (duh)

Ashton Eaton won his competition when setting the WR/AR (yep)

Troll game is on zero. We all know Rupp crushed the 10k, closing in 1:57 for the big ol' W. MINUS OVER 5,000!!

I confused Rupp's AR with his run for the Olympic silver medal. He did win the Pre Classic 10,000 in 2014 when he set the AR. No offense intended towards Rupp.

afewtogetyoustarted wrote:

The GOAT Alan Webb won his race when setting the mile AR.

Wasn't Webb's AR-setting mile run in a race set up specifically for him to set the record, not a regularly scheduled event? There were other runners present but nobody of any significance, just enough warm bodies so that it wasn't a solo time trial. That's my memory of it but my memory isn't always reliable.

Yeah after the pacer dropped there was nobody. Unless you count the ghost of Steve Scott

It's much more honorable to set an AR while not winning. That means you've competed with the best and that you're one of them, not just a big fish in a small pond. The exception is if you set an AR in the Olympics.

I think the only ones set without winning (for men) are the 800, 3k Steeple, and 5k.

You confused Rupp's Silver medal run with his current AR?

Yes it is very difficult to find Americans who won the race where they earned a Silver.

Star wrote:

You confused Rupp's Silver medal run with his current AR?

Yes it is very difficult to find Americans who won the race where they earned a Silver.

That was what was said in the thread, but I think the confusion was more that when Rupp set the AR in 2011 (or whenever that was) it was in a losing effort. In 2014 Rupp won the only 10K of note all year to better his record.

An interesting thread would also be how many US records have been set in a winning effort on US soil.

Current U.S. Records set on US soil

Flo Jo 100

Michael Johnson 200

Rollins 100 hurdles

Rupp 10,000

All wins

Lagat's 1500 AR was in a win. His 5000 AR was not

Both 200 and 400 records were set in wins.

Both 400 hurdles records were set in wins.

Delembe Watusi 3:41.2 mile world record

Aug 2, 2019

Luis Bidoga 12:45.3 5000m AR. July 22 2023

These major AR's were losing efforts:

m3000 Lagat 2nd

m3000st Jager 2nd, fell over

m5000 Lagat 2nd

m4x100 whipped by Jamaica

w800 Jearl Miles-Clark 3rd

w1500 Rowbury 3rd

w5000 Huddle 6th

w10000 Flanagan 3rd

w3000st Coburn 2nd

w4x400 2nd

In that last one Flojo anchored with a blistering 48.08 but Olga Bryzgina owned her with a sub 48.

Star wrote:

You confused Rupp's Silver medal run with his current AR?

Yes it is very difficult to find Americans who won the race where they earned a Silver.

Yes. I thought Mo won in both races.

a big one is the Women's marathon AR

Deena Kastor won the London marathon in 2:19:36

Mary Decker Slaney Tabb Etc led every step of her 3000 AR. I know it isn't an Olympic distance any longer, but I always liked her for going after it from the gun (without rabbits).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY7aUAOit0I

Especially with Mo in the race.Back to the question: I would guess that anytime an American set a WR they also set the AR and most likely won the race. This isn't the entire list, but I would suggest a good one to start with. You're welcome.

Star wrote:

You confused Rupp's Silver medal run with his current AR?

Yes it is very difficult to find Americans who won the race where they earned a Silver.

too lazy to google wrote:

Congrats to Flanagan on her new 10K AR. Great running. But it got me to thinking. How many AR's have been set when the person also won the race? Shalane was 2nd. Rowbury was 3rd for her 1500m AR. Rupp didn't win when he ran 26:44 on the track. Not trying to belittle their performances. Props to each. Just curious.

I think it is rare for ANYONE to PR in races they win.