Dibaba going for the WR in the 5k final!

CDA wrote:

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PEOPLE! FOR THE LAST TIME, you cannot say she jumped from 3:57 to 3:50 in ONE season because she ran 3:55 INDOORS in the winter of 2014.

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I don't understand how people thought the record was completely unprecedented.

Stunning, but not unfathomable.

Yeah, there were those shattered indoor records at all major distances, as harbingers...

jjjjjjj wrote:

She closed in 1:57 in that weather. She ran 3:50 in Monaco with 1st 8 in 2:04, last 8 in 2:00-1. She's fully capable of a 5000m WR with no pacers. But surely not in that weather. After all, she fell off the pace in much cooler weather in Oslo after the pacers were out.

You forget how hot Monaco was.

kal wrote:

imo, yes she's doped. When she broke the Chinese woman's WR a few weeks ago she was way inside her previous personal best pace. As a runner myself, I know that past 400m, (even past 200) if you go even a fraction under your pace early on, never mind seconds under, you can end up losing seconds per lap afterwards.

She didn't do that though although your vast experience is noted

rupp-certified thermometer wrote:

You forget how hot Monaco was.

Her 2 sisters and her cousin (Tulu) are ridiculously talented. Some families just have it, and GDibs got to benefit as she got to learn directly from the best (didn't even mention her bro-in-law Sihine). She even calls Tirunesh her idol (http://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/genzebe-dibaba-comes-out-of-her-sisters-shadow).For years people kept wondering what would happen if the Ethiopians stepped down to the 1500 (or shorter in the case of Aman). Now we know, since imho, GDibs would be more suited for the faster stuff due to her height. .She ran a 14:55 when she was 18, 6 years ago. It's not like she fell out of the sky.

Doping Central wrote:

She is 2 levels above everyone else. After decades of talent coming through the world scene she somehow is so much better than everyone else. The only other group of runners to be like that were the Chinese. We all know they were doped.

So why aren't we asking questions and prodding on this woman? She is making a mockery of the sport. 1:56 last 800 in a 1500m race when pure 800m runners are struggling to reach that time in just an 800m run.....

Come on people. She is doped. Her reasoning is the rainy season was stopped her from being this good in the past. Really?

I agree. I don't think it's just one or two guys though, it is the culture this forum has bred, accusing every elite of cheating. I posted on here before complaining about the amount of people that mindlessly shout 'cheat' like 10 year olds every time they see something that impresses them.

Discussions such as the ones that followed the NOP documentary make sense and are fine but just saying 'doper' when something happens that you weren't expecting is stupid.

I really think the moderators should take notice of what I'm saying, it is impossible to have an educated discussion about the sport or make predictions and analyse performances on here anymore without some idiot troll destroying it. There is far more to talk about in athletics than doping. The old crowd that offered training advice are pretty much all gone now, it is just the trolls that are left.

I've been visiting this site for over 10 years. I assure you, nothing has changed, and Paolo will still know how to find you.

I think that by accusing everyone of cheating they're hoping that in 10 years one of them will be caught doping and they'll be able to show everyone just how clever they were

Wowsers wrote:

http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/worldSports/Ethiopia-s-Genzebe-Dibaba-to-5-000-metres-finals-in-Beijing-377983

"She said a world record was possible in Sunday's 5,000 final."

"If I keep my good performance I can run faster than the current world record," she said.

That would be stupid, really-really stupid. I don't recall any distance athlete going for a world record at a global championship. That is perhaps the only way I can see her losing, going out too fast and blowing up. The smart thing would be to hope for the slowest pace possible and take off at 600 meters. Also, from a financial standpoint, she can do what her sister did and spend the next year getting large appearance fees by teasing race directors with world record attempts.

I did. So suck my David Rudisha diiiiick.

Rojo acting as a defense attorntywrote:

She is 2 levels above everyone else. After decades of doping coming through the world scene she somehow found a drug that is "so much better than everyone else's?" How is that that possible? Really?

I hope you are right, but I'm not sure you've earned the snark. Your argument is the one used to prove that Lance was the best cyclist of his generation. We know how that turned out -- defying logic, Lance did in fact have better dope, or at least a better doping program, than anyone else.

These arguments will be more civil if you remember Radcliffe's law: "In this day and age, you can only be certain about yourself," and its corollary: "You can't prove that anyone is clean or dirty unless they test positive."

Whoops!

J.R., I'll give you one star for the prediction, one for that classy comment, and one bonus star. Three stars, here you are! You have deserved them. (And this from someone who thinks you're a moron.)